From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CF4CD6E7E for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S232726AbjJKPJ7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:09:59 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:48262 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S232716AbjJKPJ6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:09:58 -0400 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CB17A4; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1B52FC433C9; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:09:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1697036996; bh=NK7/zcAL72Zfq6YQF/vUxdXthgBdgQPxmKzGhiyQLLU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Xb6qwA4CNigU6EZ/vw5T4xI8CNKktxyPfYHFobP8vYN2PS2b1eMTa9KzZKmWYJkoe pxLr/TfiXbtGtSv4Ny3qNUk0mGT1kUDVTUtoM3aAUACYa8LrGH2Wh9gRXuPsfdyMzu wdGvEANVijWWQy5xhw0vLEI84yrhOKDgZZbu6yvhb6C+GHmDJDZ+3J+YB5MF+JqQvV wdVpy4pJU+N6cQUD6oyaWVmu2nSS7rcfV6qSIHvCQZn3s5SPTNwTl2W4zvbZC+DJnc HPe03ERpdteJ8l7louBWQScthVQJhkzQxtKNd9oPhGB/7XODTLKlchESt+mK7MRLhO Llduy5PyXKIMA== Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:09:55 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Kalle Valo Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Arnd Bergmann , Arnd Bergmann , Nicolas Ferre , Alexandre Belloni , Claudiu Beznea , Pavel Machek , "David S. Miller" , Larry Finger , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-staging@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging Message-ID: <20231011080955.1beeb010@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <87r0m1fwg9.fsf@kernel.org> References: <20231010155444.858483-1-arnd@kernel.org> <2023101051-unmasked-cleaver-79b3@gregkh> <87y1g94szz.fsf@kernel.org> <2023101139-pyromania-game-2237@gregkh> <87r0m1fwg9.fsf@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:29:58 +0300 Kalle Valo wrote: > > No matter what the time frame is, it's never going to line up with all > > distros, or catch everyone properly. > > Yeah, that's true. > > > I recommend, just delete all the ones you feel are not being used, in a > > patch that removes them one-by-one, so that it is trivial to revert if > > someone shows up and says "hey, my device stopped working!" a few years > > in the future. > > I'm starting to lean towards this as well. We have talked about this for > so long now but no practical solution ever found so maybe just bite the > bullet finally. What do others think? FWIW in Ethernet we do what Greg says. Delete it, if someone complains we revert back in. The revert did actually happen once, it was pretty painless (Greg even took it into stable tree, IIRC).