From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: jim.cromie@gmail.com, "Łukasz Bartosik" <lb@semihalf.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Sean Paul" <seanpaul@chromium.org>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] dynamic_debug: add support for logs destination
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:39:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231012133944.69711822@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZSfCMBXOOi9Luc6F@phenom.ffwll.local>
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:53:52 +0200
Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 11:55:48AM +0300, Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:42:24 +0200
> > Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 11:48:16AM +0300, Pekka Paalanen wrote:
...
> > > > - all selections tailored separately for each userspace subscriber
> > > > (- per open device file description selection of messages)
> > >
> > > Again this feels like a userspace problem. Sessions could register what
> > > kind of info they need for their session, and something like journald can
> > > figure out how to record it all.
> >
> > Only if the kernel actually attaches all the required information to
> > the debug messages *in machine readable form* so that userspace
> > actually can do the filtering. And that makes *that* information UABI.
> > Maybe that's fine? I wouldn't know.
>
> Well if you configure the filters to go into separate ringbuffers for each
> session (or whatever you want to split) it also becomes uapi.
It's a different UAPI: filter configuration vs. message structure. I
don't mind which it is, I just suspect one is easier to maintain and
extend than the other.
> Also I'd say that for the first cut just getting the logs out on demand
> should be good enough, multi-gpu (or multi-compositor) systems are a step
> further. We can figure those out when we get there.
This reminds me of what you recently said in IRC about a very different
topic:
<sima> swick[m], tell this past me roughly 10 years ago, would
have been easy to add into the design back when there was no
driver code yet
I just want to mention today everything I can see as useful. It's up to
the people doing the actual work to decide what they include and how.
Thanks,
pq
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-15 15:48 [PATCH v1] dynamic_debug: add support for logs destination Łukasz Bartosik
2023-09-15 18:02 ` jim.cromie
2023-09-18 7:20 ` Łukasz Bartosik
2023-10-02 10:07 ` Łukasz Bartosik
2023-10-02 20:49 ` jim.cromie
2023-10-03 19:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-03 20:53 ` jim.cromie
2023-10-04 10:55 ` Łukasz Bartosik
2023-10-05 17:14 ` Łukasz Bartosik
2023-10-06 20:49 ` jim.cromie
2023-10-09 22:47 ` Łukasz Bartosik
2023-10-10 16:01 ` jim.cromie
2023-10-10 16:06 ` jim.cromie
2023-10-11 8:48 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-10-11 9:42 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-10-11 13:59 ` Łukasz Bartosik
2023-10-12 8:55 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-10-12 9:53 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-10-12 10:39 ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2023-10-12 13:18 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-10-16 15:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-12 18:48 ` jim.cromie
2023-10-16 15:13 ` Łukasz Bartosik
2023-10-18 3:08 ` jim.cromie
2023-10-19 13:21 ` Łukasz Bartosik
2023-10-11 13:47 ` Łukasz Bartosik
2023-10-24 16:24 ` Jason Baron
2023-10-25 7:58 ` Łukasz Bartosik
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