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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
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	"Martins, Joao" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 08/17] iommufd: Always setup MSI and anforce cc on kernel-managed domains
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 13:51:13 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231018165113.GB3952@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZS7nb+mKanGFXhZY@Asurada-Nvidia>

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 12:58:39PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 12:53:01PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 08:52:49AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > I prefer to removing enforce_cc in attach fn completely then no parent
> > > trick in this patch. Just keep it in hwpt_alloc and leave to iommu driver to
> > > figure out the attaching compatibility:
> > 
> > You are basically saying to set the cc mode during creation because we
> > know the idev at that moment and can tell if it should be on/off?
> > 
> > It seems reasonable, but I can't remember why it is in the attach path
> > at the moment.
> 
> This was the commit adding it in the alloc path:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/8e897628-61fa-b3fb-b609-44eeda11b45e@arm.com/
> 
> The older code was doing a hwpt "upgrade" from !cc to cc:
> -       /*
> -        * Try to upgrade the domain we have, it is an iommu driver bug to
> -        * report IOMMU_CAP_ENFORCE_CACHE_COHERENCY but fail
> -        * enforce_cache_coherency when there are no devices attached to the
> -        * domain.
> -        */
> -       if (idev->enforce_cache_coherency && !hwpt->enforce_cache_coherency) {
> -               if (hwpt->domain->ops->enforce_cache_coherency)
> -                       hwpt->enforce_cache_coherency =
> -                               hwpt->domain->ops->enforce_cache_coherency(
> -                                       hwpt->domain);
> 
> If we remove the enforce_cc call in the attach path and let the
> driver decide whether to enforce or reject in attach_dev calls,
> there seems to be no point in tracking an enforce_cache_coherency
> flag in the IOMMUFD pathway but only for the VFIO_DMA_CC_IOMMU
> extension check in the vfio-compat pathway?

I think the purpose of this code is to try to minimize the number of
domains.

Otherwise we have a problem where the order devices are attached to
the domain decides how many domains you get. ie the first device
attached does not want CC (but is compatible with it) so we create a
non-CC domain

Then later we attach a device that does want CC and now we are forced
to create a second iommu domain when upgrading the first domain would
have been fine.

Hotplug is another scenario (though Intel driver does not support it,
and it looks broken)

Really, I hate this CC mechanism. It is only for Intel, can we just
punt it to userspace and have an intel 'want cc flag' for the entire
nesting path and forget about it?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-18 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-21  7:51 [PATCH v4 00/17] iommufd: Add nesting infrastructure Yi Liu
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] iommu: Add hwpt_type with user_data for domain_alloc_user op Yi Liu
2023-09-21 12:10   ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-21 20:58     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-09-25 13:05       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25 18:17         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-09-25  6:22     ` Yi Liu
2023-09-25  8:01       ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-25 13:00         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 12:12   ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-21 16:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22  9:47       ` Robin Murphy
2023-09-25  6:17         ` Yi Liu
2023-09-25 12:59           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-26  6:37         ` Tian, Kevin
2023-09-26 16:29           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-27  1:08             ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-07  9:38               ` Yi Liu
2023-09-26  6:56   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-12  9:12     ` Yi Liu
2023-10-13 11:42       ` Yi Liu
2023-10-13 22:22         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-10 16:58   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-12  9:11     ` Yi Liu
2023-10-12 13:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13  4:33         ` Yi Liu
2023-10-13 14:04           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 17:56             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-16  3:28               ` Yi Liu
2023-10-16 11:54                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-16 18:17                   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-17  8:51                     ` Yi Liu
2023-10-17  9:28                       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-18  6:12                         ` Yi Liu
2023-10-18 16:37                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-18 16:51                       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-13  0:34     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-13 14:03       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] iommu: Add nested domain support Yi Liu
2023-10-10 17:21   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-12  9:13     ` Yi Liu
2023-10-14  0:47       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] iommufd: Unite all kernel-managed members into a struct Yi Liu
2023-09-26  7:46   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-07 10:08   ` Yan Zhao
2023-10-09  4:13     ` Yi Liu
2023-10-09  5:13       ` Yan Zhao
2023-10-10  3:26         ` Yi Liu
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] iommufd: Pass in hwpt_type/user_data to iommufd_hw_pagetable_alloc() Yi Liu
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] iommufd: Separate kernel-managed HWPT alloc/destroy/abort functions Yi Liu
2023-09-26  7:57   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-10 18:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-12 19:09     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13  7:13       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-13 14:05         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-16  8:26           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-16 12:02             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] iommufd: Add shared alloc_fn function pointer and mutex pointer Yi Liu
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] iommufd: Add user-managed hw_pagetable support Yi Liu
2023-09-26  8:14   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-14  0:08     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] iommufd: Always setup MSI and anforce cc on kernel-managed domains Yi Liu
2023-09-26  8:16   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-14  0:44     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-16  8:48       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-16 11:57         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17  8:52           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-17 15:53             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17 19:58               ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-18 16:51                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-10-19  1:56                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-19 23:53                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-20  2:43                       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-20 13:55                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-20 18:59                           ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-21 16:38                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-23  0:18                               ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-23  2:53                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-10-23 18:42                                   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-23 13:59                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-23 18:49                                   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-18  2:32             ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-17  9:05           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] iommufd/device: Add helpers to enforce/remove device reserved regions Yi Liu
2023-10-07  7:20   ` Yan Zhao
2023-10-07  9:27     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] iommufd: Support IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC allocation with user data Yi Liu
2023-10-13 15:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 20:58     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-14  0:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-14  0:51         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-16  7:03           ` Yi Liu
2023-10-16 11:59             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-16 18:44               ` Nicolin Chen
2023-10-17  8:55                 ` Yi Liu
2023-10-17 15:50                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17 19:32                     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] iommufd: Add IOMMU_HWPT_INVALIDATE Yi Liu
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] iommufd/selftest: Rework TEST_LENGTH to test min_size explicitly Yi Liu
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] iommufd/selftest: Add nested domain allocation for mock domain Yi Liu
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC with nested HWPTs Yi Liu
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] iommufd/selftest: Add mock_domain_cache_invalidate_user support Yi Liu
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_TEST_OP_MD_CHECK_IOTLB test op Yi Liu
2023-09-21  7:51 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMU_HWPT_INVALIDATE ioctl Yi Liu
2023-10-10 16:53 ` [PATCH v4 00/17] iommufd: Add nesting infrastructure Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-12  8:45   ` Yi Liu

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