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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Olga Kornievskaia <kolga@netapp.com>,
	Dai Ngo <Dai.Ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: nfsd_copy_write_verifier: wrong usage of read_seqbegin_or_lock()
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 20:19:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231025181913.GE29779@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZTlZan240vG8HG/B@tissot.1015granger.net>

On 10/25, Chuck Lever wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 07:54:36PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 10/25, Chuck Lever wrote:
> > >
> > > > Another question is why we can't simply turn nn->writeverf into seqcount_t.
> > > > I guess we can't because nfsd_reset_write_verifier() needs spin_lock() to
> > > > serialise with itself, right?
> > >
> > > "reset" is supposed to be very rare operation. Using a lock in that
> > > case is probably quite acceptable, as long as reading the verifier
> > > is wait-free and guaranteed to be untorn.
> > >
> > > But a seqcount_t is only 32 bits.
> >
> > Again, I don't understand you.
> >
> > Once again, we can turn writeverf into seqcount_t, see the patch below.
>
> The patch below does not turn "writeverf" into a seqcount_t, it
> turns "writeverf_lock" into a seqcount_t.

Yes, typo. Of course I meant writeverf_lock. A bit strange it was not clear.

> Your original proposal made no sense.

Which one??? I thought that you agree that the current nfsd_copy_write_verifier()
code makes no send, at least that is how I interpreted your previous email. Confused.

> But I see now what you
> would like to change.

OK,

> I'm not familiar enough with these primitives to have a strong
> opinion. What do you think would be the benefit?

See above. And just in case let me repeat. No, I don't think we can/should turn
writeverf_lock (double check I didn't say "writeverf") into seqcount_t.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-25 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 16:30 nfsd_copy_write_verifier: wrong usage of read_seqbegin_or_lock() Oleg Nesterov
2023-10-25 17:00 ` Chuck Lever
2023-10-25 17:39   ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-10-25 17:47     ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-10-25 17:57     ` Chuck Lever
2023-10-25 18:10       ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-10-25 17:54   ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-10-25 18:07     ` Chuck Lever
2023-10-25 18:19       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2023-10-26 14:50 ` [PATCH] nfsd_copy_write_verifier: use read_seqbegin() rather than read_seqbegin_or_lock() Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]   ` <ZTvc0Z6DJEYXI/TL@tissot.1015granger.net>
2023-10-27 19:34     ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-10-27 19:40       ` Chuck Lever III
2023-10-27 20:28   ` Jeff Layton
2023-10-27 22:52   ` NeilBrown

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