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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Jeanson <mjeanson@efficios.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/5] tracing: Introduce faultable tracepoints
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:03:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231121160300.GK8262@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a41f6cd-971d-4360-aeeb-a9cbf665bb72@paulmck-laptop>

On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 07:58:40AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:

> Tasks Trace RCU allows general blocking in its readers, not just the
> subject-to-priority-boosting blocking permitted within preemptible RCU
> readers.  Restrictions on the use of Tasks Trace RCU are in place to allow
> getting away with this general blocking.  Even systems generously endowed
> with memory are not going to do well when the RCU grace period is blocked
> on I/O, especially if that I/O is across a network to a slow file server.
> 
> Which means a separate RCU instance is needed.  Which is Tasks Trace RCU.

Separate instance not a problem, nor really the question.

What is the basic mechanism of task-tracing? Is it really the existing
tasks-rcu extended with read-side critical sections and call_rcu ?

If so, then why not have it be tasks-rcu?

Or is it a variant of the preemptible/SRCU class of RCUs that are
counter-array based? I suspect not.

So once again, what exactly is tasks-tracing ?

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-21 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-20 20:54 [PATCH v4 0/5] Faultable Tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-20 20:54 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] tracing: Introduce faultable tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-20 21:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-20 22:18     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-11-20 22:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-20 23:56         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-11-21  8:47           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-21 14:06             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-21 14:36               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-21 14:40                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-21 14:46                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-21 14:56                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-21 15:51                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-11-21 15:52                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-21 16:00                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-21 16:07                         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-11-21 16:11                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-21 16:43                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-11-21 16:50                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-21 17:31                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-21 16:41                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-11-21 14:44                 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-11-21 16:45                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-11-21 15:58                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-11-21 16:03                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-11-21 16:46                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-11-20 22:20   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-20 15:38     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-20 20:54 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] tracing/ftrace: Add support for " Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-20 22:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-20 15:04     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-20 20:54 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] tracing/bpf-trace: add " Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-20 20:54 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] tracing/perf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-20 20:54 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] tracing: convert sys_enter/exit to " Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-20 21:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-20 15:05     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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