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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>,
	Leonid Bloch <lbloch@nvidia.com>,
	Itay Avraham <itayavr@nvidia.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 2/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add mlx5ctl misc driver
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 09:20:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2023112938-unhook-defiance-75ed@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZWb_l7rC4QK8duU3@x130>

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 01:08:39AM -0800, Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> On 27 Nov 18:59, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 11:06:16PM -0800, Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> > > +struct mlx5ctl_dev {
> > > +	struct mlx5_core_dev *mdev;
> > > +	struct miscdevice miscdev;
> > > +	struct auxiliary_device *adev;
> > > +	struct list_head fd_list;
> > > +	spinlock_t fd_list_lock; /* protect list add/del */
> > > +	struct rw_semaphore rw_lock;
> > > +	struct kref refcount;
> > 
> > You now have 2 different things that control the lifespan of this
> > structure.  We really need some way to automatically check this so that
> > people don't keep making this same mistake, it happens all the time :(
> > 
> > Please pick one structure (miscdevice) or the other (kref) to control
> > the lifespan, having 2 will just not work.
> > 
> 
> miscdevice doesn't handle the lifespan, open files will remain open even
> after the miscdevice was unregistered, hence we use the kref to defer the
> kfree until the last open file is closed.

miscdevice has a reference counter and a lifecycle, you can not have two
reference counted objects in the same structure and expect things to
work well.

> > Also, why a rw_semaphore?  Only use those if you can prove with a
> > benchmark that it is actually faster, otherwise it's simpler to just use
> > a normal mutex (hint, you are changing the fields in the structure with
> > the read lock held, which feels very wrong, and so needs a LOT of
> > documentation, or just use a normal mutex...)
> > 
> 
> It is needed so we can protect against underlaying device unloading while
> miscdevice is active, we use rw semaphore since we don't care about
> synchronization between any of the fops, but we want to protect current
> active ioctls and fops from sudden mlx5ctl_remove (auxiliary_driver.remove)
> which can happen dynamically due to underlaying device removal.

Then use a normal mutex.  Only use a rw lock if you can prove the
performance needs it as usually a rw lock is slower and more complex as
you then have to document stuff like:

> So here is the locking scheme:
> 
> write_lock() : only on mlx5_ctl remove and mark the device is down
> via assigning NULL to mcdev->dev, to let all new readers abort and to wait
> for current readers to finish their task.
> 
> read_lock(): used in all fops and ioctls, to make sure underlaying
> mlx5_core device is still active, and to prevent open files to access the
> device when miscdevice was already unregistered.
> 
> I agree, this should've been documented in the code, I will add
> documentation.

Just make it simple and use a normal mutex please.

And fix up the reference counting, it shouldn't be this complex, it's
just a "simple" misc device driver :)

But before you do that, please see my other email about why not using
devlink for all of this instead.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-29  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-21  7:06 [PATCH V3 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21  7:06 ` [PATCH V3 1/5] mlx5: Add aux dev for ctl interface Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21  7:06 ` [PATCH V3 2/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add mlx5ctl misc driver Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-27 13:36   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-27 14:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-27 15:51       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-27 16:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-27 18:27           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-27 19:26             ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-28  0:07               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-28  4:46                 ` David Ahern
2023-11-28 14:53                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-28 16:24                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-28 16:44                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-28 17:52                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-28 18:33                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-28 19:55                             ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-28 20:10                             ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-29  9:08                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-12-04 21:37                                 ` Aron Silverton
2023-12-05  2:52                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-05 17:11                                     ` Aron Silverton
2023-12-06  4:48                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-07 15:54                                         ` David Ahern
2023-12-07 16:20                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-07 16:41                                         ` Aron Silverton
2023-12-07 17:23                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-07 18:06                                             ` Aron Silverton
2023-12-07 19:02                                               ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-08  5:29                                                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-12-08 13:34                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08  5:27                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-12-08 12:52                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-07 18:54                                           ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-13 16:55                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-28 19:31                         ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-28 16:52                     ` David Ahern
2023-11-27 18:59   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-29  9:08     ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-29  9:20       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2023-11-29 13:02         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-29 15:41           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-29 18:07             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-21  7:06 ` [PATCH V3 3/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add info ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-27 19:09   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-27 20:39     ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-28  9:13       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-29  8:53         ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21  7:06 ` [PATCH V3 4/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add command rpc ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21  7:06 ` [PATCH V3 5/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add umem reg/unreg ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21 20:44   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-21 21:04     ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21 22:10       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-21 22:52         ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21 22:18       ` David Ahern
2023-11-21 22:46         ` Saeed Mahameed
2023-11-21 23:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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