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On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 09:27:54 +0100 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2024-01-17 18:04:47 [-0800], Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > Oh, and I'm bringing it up here, because CONFIG_RT can throw
> > in "need_resched()" into the napi_rx_has_budget(), obviously.  
> 
> need_resched() does not work on PREEMPT_RT the way you think. This
> context (the NAPI poll callback) is preemptible and (by default) runs at
> SCHED_FIFO 50 (within a threaded IRQ) so a context switch can happen at
> any time by a task with higher priority.
> If threadA gets preempted and owns a lock that threadB, with higher
> priority, wants then threadA will get back on CPU, inherit the priority
> of the threadB and continue to run until it releases the lock.
> 
> If this is the per-CPU BH lock (which I want to remove) then it will
> continue until all softirqs complete.

So there's no way for a process to know on RT that someone with higher
prio is waiting for it to release its locks? :(