From: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
Crutcher Dunnavant <crutcher+kernel@datastacks.com>,
Juergen Quade <quade@hsnr.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] lib/vsprintf: Implement ssprintf() to catch truncated strings
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 15:07:21 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240130150721.GA692144@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240129095237.GC1708181@google.com>
On Mon, 29 Jan 2024, Lee Jones wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024, David Laight wrote:
>
> > ...
> > > > I'm sure that the safest return for 'truncated' is the buffer length.
> > > > The a series of statements like:
> > > > buf += xxx(buf, buf_end - buf, .....);
> > > > can all be called with a single overflow check at the end.
> > > >
> > > > Forget the check, and the length just contains a trailing '\0'
> > > > which might cause confusion but isn't going to immediately
> > > > break the world.
> > >
> > > snprintf() does this and has been proven to cause buffer-overflows.
> > > There have been multiple articles authored describing why using
> > > snprintf() is not generally a good idea for the masses including the 2
> > > linked in the commit message:
> >
> > snprintf() returns the number of bytes that would have been output [1].
> > I'm not suggesting that, or not terminating the buffer.
> > Just returning the length including the '\0' (unless length was zero).
> > This still lets the code check for overflow but isn't going to
> > generate a pointer outside the buffer if used to update a pointer.
>
> I see. Well I'm not married to my solution. However, I am convinced
> that the 2 solutions currently offered can be improved upon. If you or
> anyone else has a better solution, I'd be more than happy to implement
> and switch to it.
>
> Let me have a think about the solution you suggest and get back to you.
Okay, I've written a bunch of simple test cases and results are
positive. It seems to achieve my aim whilst minimising any potential
pitfalls.
- Success returns Bytes actually written - no functional change
- Overflow returns the size of the buffer - which makes the result
a) testable for overflow
b) non-catastrophic if accidentally used to manipulate later sizes
int size = 10;
char buf[size];
char *b = buf;
ret = spprintf(b, size, "1234");
size -= ret;
b += ret;
// ret = 4 size = 6 buf = "1234\0"
ret = spprintf(b, size, "5678");
size -= ret;
b += ret;
// ret = 4 size = 2 buf = "12345678\0"
ret = spprintf(b, size, "9***");
size -= ret;
b += ret;
// ret = 2 size = 0 buf = "123456789\0"
Since size is now 0, further calls result in no changes of state.
ret = spprintf(b, size, "----");
size -= ret;
b += ret;
// ret = 0 size = 0 buf = "123456789\0"
I'll knock this up and submit a patch.
--
Lee Jones [李琼斯]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-30 15:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-25 8:39 [PATCH 1/1] lib/vsprintf: Implement ssprintf() to catch truncated strings Lee Jones
2024-01-25 9:04 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2024-01-25 10:36 ` Lee Jones
2024-01-27 14:32 ` David Laight
2024-01-29 9:24 ` Lee Jones
2024-01-29 9:39 ` David Laight
2024-01-29 9:52 ` Lee Jones
2024-01-30 15:07 ` Lee Jones [this message]
2024-01-30 15:18 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2024-01-30 15:53 ` Lee Jones
2024-02-08 16:24 ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-08 17:05 ` Lee Jones
2024-01-30 21:55 ` Kees Cook
2024-01-31 8:36 ` Lee Jones
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-01-29 9:27 Lee Jones
2024-01-29 9:31 ` Lee Jones
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20240130150721.GA692144@google.com \
--to=lee@kernel.org \
--cc=David.Laight@aculab.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com \
--cc=crutcher+kernel@datastacks.com \
--cc=linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk \
--cc=pmladek@suse.com \
--cc=quade@hsnr.de \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=senozhatsky@chromium.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox