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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	minchan@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] zram: easy the allocation of zcomp_strm's buffers with 2 pages
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 10:55:43 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240206015543.GH69174@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4x6e7=tWVKfauJaGMRmJ3tz7GymKosYcHrxoxEnAHyX6g@mail.gmail.com>

On (24/01/29 10:46), Barry Song wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:35 AM Sergey Senozhatsky
> <senozhatsky@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > On (24/01/06 15:38), Barry Song wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 9:30 AM Sergey Senozhatsky
> > > <senozhatsky@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On (24/01/03 13:30), Barry Song wrote:
> > > > > There is no need to keep zcomp_strm's buffers contiguous physically.
> > > > > And rarely, 1-order allocation can fail while buddy is seriously
> > > > > fragmented.
> > > >
[..]
> > Okay, makes sense.
> > Do you see these problems in real life? I don't recall any reports.
> 
> i don't have problems with the current zram which supports normal pages only.
> 
> but  in our out-of-tree code, we have enhanced zram/zsmalloc to support large
> folios compression/decompression, which will make zram work much better
> with large anon folios/mTHP things on which Ryan Roberts is working on.
> 
> I mean, a large folio with for example 16 normal pages can be saved as
> one object in zram.
> In millions of phones, we have deployed this approach and seen huge improvement
> on compression ratio and cpu consumption decrease. in that case, we
> need a larger
> per-cpu buffer, and have seen frequent failure on allocation. that
> inspired me to send
> this patch in advance.

May I please ask you to resend this patch with updated commit mesasge?
E.g. mention cpu offlinig/onlining, etc.

[..]
> > > > I also wonder whether Android uses HW compression, in which case we
> > > > may need to have physically contig pages. Not to mention TLB shootdowns
> > > > that virt contig pages add to the picture.
> > >
> > > I don't understand how HW compression and TLB shootdown are related as zRAM
> > > is using a traditional comp API.
> >
> > Oh, those are not related. TLB shootdowns are what now will be added to
> > all compressions/decompressions, so it's sort of extra cost.
> 
> i am sorry i still don't understand where the tlb shootdowns come
> from. we don't unmap
> this per-cpu buffers during compression and decompression, do we ?
> 
> am i missing something?

No, I guess you are right.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-06  1:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-03  0:30 [PATCH] zram: easy the allocation of zcomp_strm's buffers with 2 pages Barry Song
2024-01-06  1:30 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2024-01-06  7:38   ` Barry Song
2024-01-15  2:34     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2024-01-29  2:46       ` Barry Song
2024-02-06  1:55         ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2024-02-06  9:30           ` Barry Song

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