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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>, Leonid Bloch <lbloch@nvidia.com>,
	Itay Avraham <itayavr@nvidia.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Aron Silverton <aron.silverton@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Gospodarek <andrew.gospodarek@broadcom.com>,
	Junxian Huang <huangjunxian6@hisilicon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 16:21:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240402162106.11112e99@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240402224632.GT946323@nvidia.com>

On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:46:32 -0300 Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 02:36:07PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > FWIW, I've been trying to push RDMA away from driver created sysfs for
> > > a while now. Aside from the API complexity, implementations have
> > > messed up using the sysfs APIs and resulted in some significant
> > > problems :(  
> >
> > Sure, agreed, but off-topic.  
> 
> It is not - I don't want a huge amount of sysfs in drivers to replace
> what fwctl will do for pretty solid technical reasons.
> 
> I do object, as snarky as I was, to you saying RDMA should take on a
> whole bunch of read/write sysfs in drivers that netdev would not
> accept as a "reasonable" direction.

Repeating myself a bit - I'm not saying you should take the sysfs
patches. Just that RDMA configuration belongs in the RDMA subsystem.
I don't want to suggest another solution, because frankly given
our "no direct FW interface exposure" I don't have much experience
maintaining such APIs upstream. It'd be vain of me to make suggestions.
Also I don't want to sound like I'm giving you my "blessing" to do
whatever, since my personal beliefs(?) remain unchanged. But they
carry little weight when netdevs or traffic which ends up in netdev
are not involved.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-02 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-07  7:24 [PATCH V4 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-07  7:24 ` [PATCH V4 1/5] mlx5: Add aux dev for ctl interface Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-07  7:24 ` [PATCH V4 2/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add mlx5ctl misc driver Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-29 11:44   ` Vegard Nossum
2024-03-02  8:04     ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-07  7:24 ` [PATCH V4 3/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add info ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-29 11:47   ` Vegard Nossum
2024-03-02  8:03     ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-07  7:24 ` [PATCH V4 4/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add command rpc ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-29 11:49   ` Vegard Nossum
2024-03-02  7:48     ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-07  7:24 ` [PATCH V4 5/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add umem reg/unreg ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-29 11:51   ` Vegard Nossum
2024-02-07 15:03 ` [PATCH V4 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-08  5:03   ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-09  2:15     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-09  6:55       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-09 22:42       ` David Ahern
2024-02-09 22:58         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-10  5:01           ` David Ahern
2024-02-11 11:03             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-02-11 17:01               ` David Ahern
2024-02-14 20:31             ` David Ahern
2024-02-15  0:46               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-10  1:01         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-11 16:59           ` David Ahern
2024-02-14  8:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-14 15:48   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-15  7:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-15 12:08       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-16  1:00       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-16 15:05         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-15 13:21     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-16  1:10       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-16  4:20         ` David Ahern
2024-02-16 19:04         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-14 16:17   ` Andy Gospodarek
2024-02-14 17:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-14 18:11       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-14 18:37         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-16  1:40           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-16 14:27             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-04 16:02       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-22  3:23         ` David Ahern
2024-03-22  7:32           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-03-22 15:24             ` David Ahern
2024-03-22 15:46               ` Andy Gospodarek
2024-03-22 20:58                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-22 21:18                   ` David Ahern
2024-03-22 22:40                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-26 14:57                       ` David Ahern
2024-04-01 12:30                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-01 14:50                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-01 18:10                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-01 19:04                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-02 19:20                                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-02 18:45                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-02 21:36                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-02 22:46                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-02 23:21                                   ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-04-03  0:15                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-03  6:57                                       ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-02 16:32                         ` Edward Cree
2024-04-02 18:40                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-03 19:28                             ` David Ahern
2024-04-04 17:35                             ` Edward Cree
2024-04-04 18:33                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 19:31                                 ` Edward Cree
2024-04-05 11:21                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 19:53                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-04 20:44                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 21:34                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05 11:13                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-05 15:38                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05 17:48                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-08 16:45                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-08 16:41                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 18:44                               ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 20:25                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 20:53                                   ` Edward Cree
2024-04-05 11:00                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-02 18:48                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-03 12:26                             ` Edward Cree
2024-04-03 19:00                               ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-03 19:31                                 ` David Ahern
2024-04-04  0:01                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-04  3:57                                     ` David Ahern
2024-04-04 12:23                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 14:48                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-04 17:47                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 18:06                                           ` Edward Cree
2024-04-04 18:35                                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-04 19:46                                               ` Edward Cree
2024-04-05 10:41                                                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-08  8:02                                                   ` Przemek Kitszel
2024-03-22 21:44                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-22 22:29                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-23  1:27                       ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-03-23  1:33                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-22 14:53           ` Aron Silverton
2024-04-30  1:36         ` David Ahern
2024-04-30  7:09           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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