From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B24191C36; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 00:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1712188911; cv=none; b=kPoUP19cgXOnmXNiMcnr3pSS2SIiZ8a7Ba5xPkDjlDyePOwAWIShHsH7gBzjqBc5/+nC8kSLqV8WhhOFPY+TkzPpc36tc6v5fjC+lynFGSxe1JsNQKuwYaFGvy07qv2IGv5g/lP+Ga1xvVjcmGFe7/xfTP5IVYiiUSrS9m8KD7w= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1712188911; c=relaxed/simple; bh=z6RlBSR5aj4M2kYLHYH9aUI4l4AwRODvROqiMQqGqRM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tSq1Y8ZshOpXm2iQXp36g8bC2ScHlOXbQH9/Fsb8HV6IYpcVG7azi+ENR4VScP2U86GaOpkkJ79n8wqHzKiSIl8P4E1mqwi+gPzZ9Ub0onbg6yBPkrIBKqPSEhGhyvNttZGvMmPfC1SlqCnNj2rcVtpM6sVkywdOQwf6UcgdqSE= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=LpglnLPO; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="LpglnLPO" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B7DA3C433C7; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 00:01:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1712188911; bh=z6RlBSR5aj4M2kYLHYH9aUI4l4AwRODvROqiMQqGqRM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=LpglnLPOmZodZPTZTjRY5E4ssCtYVloOxdPpXR2jLdwQtAR0wfeEutktistu+xoLK RjyTzEsmn+w/J2Ky3I+HoQvNDqohhExcGeLlhJRFCnRRVPX6AlrE6THYSs3XPzuwYg GUC1l2g+fqU7af205uyWZhe/tpWfZhYj1alkg27Uw3e26ogd6nXx7/BzQMHDFDaG8u qA5t8OyxR8Tr1Yjx3E5nMix3TqNuKSoGTo34yYZTklZjY8v+sabJrGwWE3beufbas/ OAQ+HOkG8yUl4/1qySycvyvHEEiW2iMKnWKQawyy2MAxVMUaZuES+jZPqufbRA/LZg tHl32Nv6bK6ZA== Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 17:01:49 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: David Ahern Cc: Leon Romanovsky , Edward Cree , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Jason Gunthorpe , Christoph Hellwig , Saeed Mahameed , Arnd Bergmann , Jiri Pirko , Leonid Bloch , Itay Avraham , Saeed Mahameed , Aron Silverton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , Andy Gospodarek Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver Message-ID: <20240403170149.7d2b8f2b@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: <2024032248-ardently-ribcage-a495@gregkh> <510c1b6b-1738-4baa-bdba-54d478633598@kernel.org> <20240322135826.1c4655e2@kernel.org> <20240322154027.5555780a@kernel.org> <1cd2a70c-17b8-4421-b70b-3c0199a84a6a@kernel.org> <0ea32dd4-f408-5870-77eb-f18899f1ad44@gmail.com> <20240402184832.GO11187@unreal> <20240403190012.GV11187@unreal> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:31:46 -0600 David Ahern wrote: > > ... Patches aren't languishing for want of reviewer resources; it's just that it > > takes *submitter* time and effort to bring them up to the quality level > > that's required, and occasionally the vendor has to (shock! horror!) > > tell the world what one of their magic knobs actually *does*. ... > > > > ^^^^ Content > > This paragraph alone shows that you completely didn't understand the > > discussion here. > > +1 "didn't understand the discussion" is an ironic thing for you to +1, David. After all my emails about HNS3 RDMA you somehow concluded today that I want to make rules for the entire kernel: https://lore.kernel.org/all/6faa47b0-27c3-47f9-94be-1ec671d9543c@kernel.org/ And I second what Ed said. I have asked multiple vendors preaching impossibilism in this thread to start posting those knobs. I offered to do a quick off-list review of the list of knobs they have to give a quick yay / nay, so they don't waste time implementing things that would get nacked. None of the vendors bothered taking me up on that offer.