From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5525F18E02; Fri, 5 Apr 2024 10:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1712313704; cv=none; b=sOMnvFYo/JU/62jzGfdpeZzAVuURg5skDb0X3FsOSM299iGLO3PrXZsplUWH19QwDZeKLGSXB0zYb+kae0rAbZ6hT31zzClAE8PJmMo8oRV1dxGV1i4UcPjziQfCa2i074nhcJRBbEX3qzddNcwyRiL/LqDfZYQAPDHIv0dHfnY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1712313704; c=relaxed/simple; bh=xCpACVpsGefQ3cwv4WVd0LUAr0cjofRtcGcTdFBplJU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=jsq20I072eQLtObhMuI/w1yq3+wviSoc9s2MLsBj4ZCBA9/XBhAMnynazPcN2mn7aGCdYIHV0rvIA7jY75hRkZickPOGkPCm0qxXe+0CD7E9NHfUq/1JB0pK3e/Pf1UODWExBsyzO6RbNMkH9+dac+2LtOXPGEoOWQIt59fB+v4= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=LRqjR1oO; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="LRqjR1oO" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7CA7FC433F1; Fri, 5 Apr 2024 10:41:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1712313704; bh=xCpACVpsGefQ3cwv4WVd0LUAr0cjofRtcGcTdFBplJU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=LRqjR1oONHUB4q7mfpbgRTfbMmEvVf4fg1nV0IqVgzhYMDxI5qko2nQrRdZZeTv12 aAenfA8kOH6JBJcwZBfszwVjlLNgrC3SILomY+P8TwXkQp1a/oBJ0/JYt7yPpiwztL VRhcE0UZdYY3w+08QyCcOpwtapyFkfvAfGX+iYeG441uvMNFFy+coplKUJj7G7hh7Q +FAYOQtJ4iSSIkyfFc6VTQbu8UhrJOMSSUEmKqoWMJUWs4OwuSSo8uAkfskj9qrS9L xaf31PPBfhOiGosrZdvr8gqIKGKwirMSXVz+zHUGfe8rIEz2PcvNJaD5iv9zeqCnfv yeMwewkshuCvQ== Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 13:41:40 +0300 From: Leon Romanovsky To: Edward Cree Cc: Jason Gunthorpe , Jakub Kicinski , David Ahern , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Christoph Hellwig , Saeed Mahameed , Arnd Bergmann , Jiri Pirko , Leonid Bloch , Itay Avraham , Saeed Mahameed , Aron Silverton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , Andy Gospodarek Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver Message-ID: <20240405104140.GZ11187@unreal> References: <20240403190012.GV11187@unreal> <20240403170149.7d2b8f2b@kernel.org> <20240404122338.GI1723999@nvidia.com> <20240404074850.19ecd52e@kernel.org> <20240404174728.GL1723999@nvidia.com> <20240404183540.GX11187@unreal> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 08:46:41PM +0100, Edward Cree wrote: > On 04/04/2024 19:35, Leon Romanovsky wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 07:06:53PM +0100, Edward Cree wrote: > >> Why? What does the kernel get out of it? > >> > >> Maybe *you* need them to be supported, but maybe you should have > >> thought of that earlier in the design process. ("A failure on > >> your part to foresee the eminently foreseeable does not > >> constitute an emergency on mine.") > >> If we let folks bypass our standards with a _fait accompli_, we > >> don't really have standards in the first place. > > > > Sorry, who are "we" and what are "our standards"? > > As should be obvious from context, "we" in that sentence referred to > the mainline kernel. And while participants in this thread currently > disagree on what "our standards" are, I hope it is not contentious > that the kernel community *does* have standards as to what code and > design is acceptable for inclusion. You didn't answer my question. What are "our standards"? Thanks