From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Junyao Zhao <junzhao@redhat.com>,
Chris von Recklinghausen <crecklin@redhat.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] wq: Avoid using isolated cpus' timers on queue_delayed_work
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:04:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240405140449.GB22839@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240403203814.GD31764@redhat.com>
On 04/03, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> > > OTOH, Documentation/timers/no_hz.rst says
> > >
> > > Therefore, the
> > > boot CPU is prohibited from entering adaptive-ticks mode. Specifying a
> > > "nohz_full=" mask that includes the boot CPU will result in a boot-time
> > > error message, and the boot CPU will be removed from the mask.
> > >
> > > and this doesn't match the reality.
> >
> > Don't some archs allow the boot CPU to go down too tho? If so, this doesn't
> > really solve the problem, right?
>
> I do not know. But I thought about this too.
>
> In the context of this discussion we do not care if the boot CPU goes down.
> But we need at least one housekeeping CPU after cpu_down(). The comment in
> cpu_down_maps_locked() says
>
> Also keep at least one housekeeping cpu onlined
>
> but it checks HK_TYPE_DOMAIN, and I do not know (and it is too late for me
> to try to read the code ;) if housekeeping.cpumasks[HK_TYPE_TIMER] can get
> empty or not.
This nearly killed me, but I managed to convince myself we shouldn't worry
about cpu_down().
HK_FLAG_TIMER implies HK_FLAG_TICK.
HK_FLAG_TICK implies tick_nohz_full_setup() which sets
tick_nohz_full_mask = non_housekeeping_mask.
When tick_setup_device() is called on a housekeeping CPU it does
else if (tick_do_timer_boot_cpu != -1 &&
!tick_nohz_full_cpu(cpu)) {
tick_take_do_timer_from_boot();
tick_do_timer_boot_cpu = -1;
and this sets tick_do_timer_cpu = first-housekeeping-cpu.
cpu_down(tick_do_timer_cpu) will fail, tick_nohz_cpu_down() will nack it.
So cpu_down() can't make housekeeping.cpumasks[HK_FLAG_TIMER] empty and I
still think that the change below is the right approach.
But probably WARN_ON() in housekeeping_any_cpu() makes sense anyway.
What do you think?
Oleg.
> > > So it seems that we should fix housekeeping_setup() ? see the patch below.
> > >
> > > In any case the usage of cpu_present_mask doesn't look right to me.
> > >
> > > Oleg.
> > >
> > > --- a/kernel/sched/isolation.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/sched/isolation.c
> > > @@ -129,7 +154,7 @@ static int __init housekeeping_setup(char *str, unsigned long flags)
> > > cpumask_andnot(housekeeping_staging,
> > > cpu_possible_mask, non_housekeeping_mask);
> > >
> > > - if (!cpumask_intersects(cpu_present_mask, housekeeping_staging)) {
> > > + if (!cpumask_test_cpu(smp_processor_id(), housekeeping_staging)) {
> > > __cpumask_set_cpu(smp_processor_id(), housekeeping_staging);
> > > __cpumask_clear_cpu(smp_processor_id(), non_housekeeping_mask);
> > > if (!housekeeping.flags) {
> > >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-05 14:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-30 1:00 [PATCH v2 1/1] wq: Avoid using isolated cpus' timers on queue_delayed_work Leonardo Bras
2024-01-30 1:22 ` Tejun Heo
2024-01-30 2:58 ` Leonardo Bras
2024-04-02 10:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-03 19:12 ` Tejun Heo
2024-04-03 20:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-05 14:04 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-04-05 15:38 ` Tejun Heo
2024-04-05 22:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-04-05 21:52 ` Nohz_full on boot CPU is broken (was: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] wq: Avoid using isolated cpus' timers on queue_delayed_work) Frederic Weisbecker
2024-04-07 13:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-07 13:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-09 12:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-04-09 12:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-04-09 13:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-09 13:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-04-10 4:26 ` Nicholas Piggin
2024-04-10 13:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-11 13:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-11 14:39 ` [PATCH] sched/isolation: fix boot crash when the boot CPU is nohz_full Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-11 16:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-13 14:17 ` [PATCH] sched/isolation: fix boot crash when maxcpus < first-housekeeping-cpu Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-18 14:54 ` Phil Auld
2024-04-18 15:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-04-24 20:05 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/isolation: Fix boot crash when maxcpus < first housekeeping CPU tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-28 8:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2024-04-28 13:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-28 8:24 ` tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-15 21:37 ` [PATCH] sched/isolation: fix boot crash when the boot CPU is nohz_full Frederic Weisbecker
2024-04-18 14:50 ` Phil Auld
2024-04-22 18:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-24 14:42 ` Phil Auld
2024-04-24 20:05 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/isolation: {revent " tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-24 20:41 ` Phil Auld
2024-04-28 8:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2024-04-29 11:50 ` Phil Auld
2024-04-28 8:24 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/isolation: Prevent " tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2024-10-04 12:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] wq: Avoid using isolated cpus' timers on queue_delayed_work Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-04 22:43 ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2024-10-05 11:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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