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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>
Cc: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan@unisoc.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	bristot@redhat.com, vschneid@redhat.com, yu.c.chen@intel.com,
	ke.wang@unisoc.com, di.shen@unisoc.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/eevdf: Prevent vlag from going out of bounds when reweight_eevdf
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 13:48:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240423114836.GA24704@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB8ipk-WYVLsRi1_wnm2vF3M4RDnV1cSomb4MkJ83ef2GY0gzg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 11:05:20AM +0800, Xuewen Yan wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 11:59 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 09:12:12PM +0800, Xuewen Yan wrote:
> >
> > > By adding a log to observe weight changes in reweight_entity, I found
> > > that calc_group_shares() often causes new_weight to become very small:
> >
> > Yes, cgroups do that. But over-all that should not matter no?
> >
> > Specifically, the whole re-weight thing turns into a series like:
> >
> >             w_0   w_1         w_n-1   w_0
> >         S = --- * --- * ... * ----- = ---
> >             w_1   w_2          w_n    w_n
> >
> > Where S is our ultimate scale factor.
> >
> > So even if w_m (0 < m < n) is 2, it completely disappears. But yes, it
> > will create a big term, which is why the initial vlag should be limited.
> 
> Okay, I understand what you mean. Even if the weight during dequeue is
> very small, the weight will be eliminated during enqueue.
> In this case, the necessity of the !on_rq case does not seem to be
> very important.
> 
> On the other hand, the following case:
> place_entity()
> {
> ...
>  5244                 load = cfs_rq->avg_load;
>  5245                 if (curr && curr->on_rq)
>  5246                         load += scale_load_down(curr->load.weight);
>  5247
>  5248                 lag *= load + scale_load_down(se->load.weight);
>  5249                 if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!load))
>  5250                         load = 1;
>  5251                 lag = div_s64(lag, load);<<<<
> ...
> }

So this plays games with scale_load_down() because this is W, the sum of
all w, which can indeed grow quite large and cause overflow.

> reweight_eevdf()
> {
> ...
>                  if (avruntime != se->vruntime) {
>  3770                 vlag = entity_lag(avruntime, se);
>  3771                 vlag = div_s64(vlag * old_weight, weight); <<<<
>  3772                 se->vruntime = avruntime - vlag;
>  3773         }
> .....
> }

While here we're talking about a single w, which is much more limited in
scope. And per the above, what we're trying to do is:

  vlag = lag/w
  lag/w * w/w' = lag/w'

That is, move vlag from one w to another.

> There is no need to clamp the above two positions because these two
> calculations will not theoretically cause s64 overflow?

Well, supposedly, if I didn't get it wrong etc.. (I do tend to get
things wrong from time to time :-).

I would think limited vlag would stay below 1 second or about 30 bits
this leaves another 30 bits for w which *should* be enough.

Anyway, if you're unsure, sprinkle some check_mul_overflow() and see if
you can tickle it.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-23 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-22  8:22 [PATCH v2] sched/eevdf: Prevent vlag from going out of bounds when reweight_eevdf Xuewen Yan
2024-04-22  8:33 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-04-22  9:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-22 11:07     ` Xuewen Yan
2024-04-22 11:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-22 13:12         ` Xuewen Yan
2024-04-22 13:52           ` Chen Yu
2024-04-22 15:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-23  3:05             ` Xuewen Yan
2024-04-23 11:48               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-04-24  6:53                 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-04-22  8:47 ` Chen Yu
2024-04-23  1:26   ` Yujie Liu
2024-04-22 11:39 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/eevdf: Prevent vlag from going out of bounds in reweight_eevdf() tip-bot2 for Xuewen Yan

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