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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Yun Levi <ppbuk5246@gmail.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Vineeth Pillai <vineeth@bitbyteword.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	anna-maria@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	Markus.Elfring@web.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] time/tick-sched: idle load balancing when nohz_full cpu becomes idle.
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 10:49:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240516084911.GF22557@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM7-yPRHp3tiZjuBTesdRQoU8WJNg1scon_txS_6R-pZq9MXHw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 09:20:08AM +0100, Yun Levi wrote:
> > None of that HK nonsense is relevant. The NOHZ_FULL nonsense implies
> > single CPU partitions, and *that* should be avoiding any and all
> > load-balancing.
> 
> Do you mean.. tick_nohz_full cpu (non-HK-ticked cpu) shouldn't belong
> to any sched_domain?

AFAIK NOHZ_FULL still hard relies on the isolcpus garbage, so yeah, it
should be all single cpu partitions, which don't have a domain.

(this really should migrate to use cpusets partitions)

> > If there still is, that's a bug, but that's not related to HK goo.
> >
> > As such, I don't think the HK_TYPE_SCHED check in
> > nohz_balance_enter_idle() actually makes sense, the on_null_omain()
> > check a little below that should already take care of things, no?
> 
> IIUC,
> currently, whether cpu belongs on domain or null is determined by
> HK_DOMAIN_FLAGS

No! you can create NULL domains without any of the HK nonsense. Both
isolcpus and cpusets can create single CPU partitions.

> However, when "nohz_full=" is used, it still on HK_DOMAIN, so it
> belongs to sched_domain
> so, it couldn't be filtered out by on_null_domain().
> 
> unless "isolcpus=domain" or "isolcpus={cpu_list}", it's on null domain.
> with "isolcpus=tick", it participates sched_domain.

Frederic ?!? You can use nohz_full without isolcpus? That makes no
sense. If you do that you get to keep the pieces.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-16  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-06 21:31 [PATCH] time/tick-sched: enable idle load balancing when nohz_full cpu becomes idle Levi Yun
2024-05-08  9:18 ` Markus Elfring
2024-05-09  9:59   ` Dan Carpenter
2024-05-08 17:26 ` [PATCH v2] time/tick-sched: " Levi Yun
2024-05-08 18:38   ` Markus Elfring
2024-05-08 19:15     ` Yun Levi
2024-05-08 19:22   ` [PATCH v3] " Levi Yun
2024-05-09  6:28     ` Markus Elfring
2024-05-09  7:26       ` Yun Levi
2024-05-09  8:16         ` Markus Elfring
2024-05-09  9:22           ` Yun Levi
2024-05-09  9:40             ` [v3] " Markus Elfring
2024-05-09  9:29   ` [PATCH v4] " Levi Yun
2024-05-09  9:55     ` [v4] " Markus Elfring
2024-05-15 16:41     ` [PATCH v4] " Yun Levi
2024-05-15 22:52     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-16  5:29       ` Yun Levi
2024-05-16  7:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16  8:20         ` Yun Levi
2024-05-16  8:49           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-05-16 11:25             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-16 12:43               ` Yun Levi
2024-05-16 14:00                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 14:23                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-16 14:45                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 15:02                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-16 15:19                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 15:32                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-16 16:12                             ` Yun Levi
2024-05-16 17:53                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-17 14:50                               ` Frederic Weisbecker

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