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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>,
	Chris von Recklinghausen <crecklin@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sched/isolation: tick_take_do_timer_from_boot() calls smp_call_function_single() with irqs disabled
Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 14:19:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240528121906.GA14593@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D1KVETKKSRHL.18ZTVKAN8JS3Y@gmail.com>

On 05/28, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
>
> >
> > So, Frederic, Nicholas, any objections to the trivial change below?
>
> Since Thomas says it's alright, then no. I guess I added it because I
> was not certain about taking the tick_do_timer_cpu while the boot CPU
> could be running a timer interrupt.

I thought about it too, but didn't see anything wrong...

Suppose that WRITE_ONCE(tick_do_timer_cpu, cpu) happens right after
tick_periodic() on the boot CPU sees READ_ONCE(tick_do_timer_cpu) == cpu.
Does this really differ from the case when tick_take_do_timer_from_boot()
waits for the boot CPU to return from timer_interrupt() ?

> I would take some of his comment to explain the race is harmless and
> put it in that if block.

Yes, yes, sure. See the patch I'll send in a minute.

> Out of curiosity, you are getting this going on x86?

Yes, and I didn't check other arch'es.

> Any particular use-case?

I have no idea. I noticed this problem when I was working on 5097cbcb38e6
("sched/isolation: Prevent boot crash when the boot CPU is nohz_full"), see
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240411165936.GA20901@redhat.com/

Perhaps Chris who reported that problem can add more details.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-28 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-22 15:17 sched/isolation: tick_take_do_timer_from_boot() calls smp_call_function_single() with irqs disabled Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-23 13:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-24  9:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-05-24 14:10     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-24 15:22       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-24 15:20     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-24 17:16       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-05-24 18:37       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-24 22:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-05-25 13:51           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-25 14:13             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-26 19:27           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-26 20:52             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-27 15:57               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-27 11:01             ` Nicholas Piggin
2024-05-27 15:57               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-28  1:02                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2024-05-28 12:19                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-05-27 16:13               ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-05-26 20:57           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-27  9:10           ` Nicholas Piggin
2024-05-27 10:23             ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-05-27 11:16               ` Nicholas Piggin
2024-05-28 12:20 ` [PATCH] tick/nohz_full: don't abuse smp_call_function_single() in tick_setup_device() Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-28 12:22   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-30 12:40   ` [PATCH] tick/nohz_full: turn tick_do_timer_boot_cpu into boot_cpu_is_nohz_full Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-03 15:35     ` [PATCH v2] " Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-03 21:44       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-04  5:08       ` Nicholas Piggin
2024-05-30 14:52   ` [PATCH] tick/nohz_full: don't abuse smp_call_function_single() in tick_setup_device() Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-30 16:52     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-05-30 17:01     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-01 14:03     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-02 21:29       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-03 15:41         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-03 21:45           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-10 15:55   ` [PING ;)] " Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-10 18:15     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-10 18:26   ` [tip: timers/urgent] tick/nohz_full: Don't " tip-bot2 for Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-10 19:42     ` Frederic Weisbecker

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