From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from casper.infradead.org (casper.infradead.org [90.155.50.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FB761C2E; Sat, 15 Jun 2024 01:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=90.155.50.34 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1718415927; cv=none; b=C2Pc4O2PytQ45JESGspuXf2SjWwRp0PpFjt58KMjbp6m1afuI66lDvABiottkPPGIezuksg75Zi0EE+NT6AAoGHdk62wcJjyYCuSOMtdF2cRTlp7TuHY1nfCEdi0cKdJrSe4QfBQvb5nr6BSlTbo4XAkS4GLsgE3h2shEoFt4v4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1718415927; c=relaxed/simple; bh=7dVfBiT/JJ48FsOEeTVREWgxZ1AuTVYFkWiXwbQLL/Q=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=J03OjpTt8iP8aCNc10zJuJa1Bm0w5ZRHK5XBvXeJSJR3nh4hIDtuBg2X6UKrrc8Y0CmJmEvbse0WxXHF0kb5EclH4l1d7jMNoYJpvYn8yQbTKsRoGKkM2Mm3N/NbLyGx6diyDIAgKTHm2+E+DeBrp1sB62A0kzqCG0je6p9tEHk= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=infradead.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b=PYbWvkuc; arc=none smtp.client-ip=90.155.50.34 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="PYbWvkuc" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=casper.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=Cmiivs9+4WenC6OP/1ZCnI/gkKg1dnHA0OIU4ZJ3byg=; b=PYbWvkucSg2aBQezLwmo+Qcd5e buXI3jXr9trafbVS5gAryDT/g51ZN2ZBHJAxUbhpaC2hB7zEs07wi7VegkBqFt449VYmSdHx7elSe WogNyhroF0DK54iaxAW50jWdlZDahTiZV5+Ls5WFRE8mrzX+a1Gce1UfgRgk+LFUxWnqraMHJ82U+ fjuNuq9GYv6VpVV9TPpSg4O/DlYpC/xa6zQU7QS5onXdbc6AjTRUO7+Q+u9isTmIEj0KMnjFgqrDf ebusEVDAofzzEFgSzUfwc/6aFrS74znvLxdtqTdMPASh9jObHTMaQX2D8eISlHn4iq1vMo6HzZ/MT vTtCcWSw==; Received: from j130084.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.130.84] helo=noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net) by casper.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.97.1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1sIITp-0000000HUbC-2ox1; Sat, 15 Jun 2024 01:45:21 +0000 Received: by noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 38AF1300886; Sat, 15 Jun 2024 03:45:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 03:45:21 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Vincent Guittot Cc: K Prateek Nayak , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Gautham R. Shenoy" , Richard Henderson , Ivan Kokshaysky , Matt Turner , Russell King , Guo Ren , Michal Simek , Dinh Nguyen , Jonas Bonn , Stefan Kristiansson , Stafford Horne , "James E.J. Bottomley" , Helge Deller , Michael Ellerman , Nicholas Piggin , Christophe Leroy , "Naveen N. Rao" , Yoshinori Sato , Rich Felker , John Paul Adrian Glaubitz , "David S. Miller" , Andreas Larsson , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , Dave Hansen , "H. Peter Anvin" , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Daniel Lezcano , Juri Lelli , Dietmar Eggemann , Steven Rostedt , Ben Segall , Mel Gorman , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira , Valentin Schneider , Andrew Donnellan , Benjamin Gray , Frederic Weisbecker , Xin Li , Kees Cook , Rick Edgecombe , Tony Battersby , Bjorn Helgaas , Brian Gerst , Leonardo Bras , Imran Khan , "Paul E. McKenney" , Rik van Riel , Tim Chen , David Vernet , Julia Lawall , linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-csky@vger.kernel.org, linux-openrisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] Introducing TIF_NOTIFY_IPI flag Message-ID: <20240615014521.GR8774@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20240613181613.4329-1-kprateek.nayak@amd.com> <20240614092801.GL8774@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20240615012814.GP8774@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240615012814.GP8774@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 03:28:14AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 12:48:37PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote: > > The main problem is that need_resched becomes somewhat meaningless > > because it doesn't only mean "I need to resched a task" and we have > > to add more tests around even for those not using polling > > True, however we already had some of that by having the wakeup list, > that made nr_running less 'reliable'. Doesn't using !idle_cpu() instead of need_resched() in those balance paths already do the right thing? Checking need_resched() as an indicator of it getting work is already a bit an assumption. Also, Ingo, idle_cpu() and friends don't really belong in syscalls.c...