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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
To: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
Cc: X86 Kernel <x86@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	<linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi.kleen@intel.com>, Xin Li <xin3.li@intel.com>,
	jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] x86/irq: Add enumeration of NMI source reporting CPU feature
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:23:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240627152102.592a20f5@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <004f6400-0d35-4c5e-ad31-094be8860f08@intel.com>


On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:08:14 -0700, Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
wrote:

> >> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpuid-deps.c
> >> b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpuid-deps.c
> >> index b7d9f530ae16..39526041e91a 100644
> >> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpuid-deps.c
> >> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpuid-deps.c
> >> @@ -84,6 +84,7 @@ static const struct cpuid_dep cpuid_deps[] = {
> >>         { X86_FEATURE_SHSTK,                    X86_FEATURE_XSAVES
> >> }, { X86_FEATURE_FRED,                     X86_FEATURE_LKGS      },
> >>         { X86_FEATURE_FRED,                     X86_FEATURE_WRMSRNS
> >> },
> >> +       { X86_FEATURE_NMI_SOURCE,		X86_FEATURE_FRED
> >> }, {}
> >>  };  
> > If FRED is never reported by CPUID, then there would not be any calls to
> > setup_clear_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_FRED), so this table does not help clear
> > the dependent NMI_SOURCE, right?
> >   
> 
> I thought there was a common function for all features. I expected it to
> go through each feature and clear the ones whose dependency is missing.
> But I can't find it easily. Maybe someone else knows this better.
> 
> However, anytime do_clear_cpu_cap() is called for any feature it does
> the below and scans the cpuid_deps table to clear all features with
> missing dependencies. That would cause X86_FEATURE_NMI_SOURCE to be
> cleared one way or another.
I don't think this is true. For a simplified example:
cpuid_deps has the following feature-depends pairs.
[1, 3]
[2, 3]
now, do_clear_cpu_cap(c, 2)

Before the loop below __set_bit(feature, disable), bit 2 is set. 

Since there is no other features depend on 2, the loop below will not clear
any other features. no?

> 
> 
> 	/* Loop until we get a stable state. */
> 	do {
> 		changed = false;
> 		for (d = cpuid_deps; d->feature; d++) {
> 			if (!test_bit(d->depends, disable))
> 				continue;
> 			if (__test_and_set_bit(d->feature, disable))
> 				continue;
> 
> 			changed = true;
> 			clear_feature(c, d->feature);
> 		}
> 	} while (changed);
> 
> 
> > In the next version, I will add runtime disable if HW malfunctions.
> > i.e. no valid bitmask.
> >   
> 
> I don't think we do this for other features that have a missing
> dependency. It doesn't seem NMI source is any different from them.
> 
NMI source is an optimization with a fallback path *always* available. In
that sense, it can be disabled at runtime without losing functionality.

The closest analogy I can think of are timers for clocksources where we use
higher ranking/cheaper timers first, and only resort to other timers in
case the primary/optimal one fails.

e.g.
root@984fee003c4f:~/jacob# cat
/sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/available_clocksource  
tsc hpet acpi_pm


Thanks,

Jacob

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-27 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-11 16:54 Jacob Pan
2024-06-11 16:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] x86/irq: Add enumeration of NMI source reporting CPU feature Jacob Pan
2024-06-12  2:32   ` Xin Li
2024-06-12  2:50     ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-06-12  3:04       ` Xin Li
2024-06-21 23:00     ` Sohil Mehta
2024-06-28  5:00       ` Jacob Pan
2024-06-21 22:23   ` Sohil Mehta
2024-06-21 23:46     ` Jacob Pan
2024-06-22  1:08       ` Sohil Mehta
2024-06-27 22:23         ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2024-06-27 23:20           ` Sohil Mehta
2024-06-11 16:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] x86/irq: Extend NMI handler registration interface to include source Jacob Pan
2024-06-24 23:16   ` Sohil Mehta
2024-06-28  4:56     ` Jacob Pan
2024-06-11 16:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] x86/irq: Factor out common NMI handling code Jacob Pan
2024-06-11 16:54 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] x86/irq: Process nmi sources in NMI handler Jacob Pan
2024-06-11 18:41   ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-06-12 21:54     ` Jacob Pan
2024-06-24 23:38       ` Sohil Mehta
2024-06-24 23:53   ` Sohil Mehta
2024-06-11 16:54 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] perf/x86: Enable NMI source reporting for perfmon Jacob Pan
2024-06-11 19:10   ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-06-12 20:27     ` Jacob Pan
2024-06-11 16:54 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] x86/irq: Enable NMI source on IPIs delivered as NMI Jacob Pan
2024-06-12  2:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-12  2:55   ` Re: Xin Li

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