From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 899231A2573; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=217.70.183.196 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1719528205; cv=none; b=O2cS3pUXV8+dMM54/ZDkUUD5ByfwzcMM6fdzBkIxD4PIo3Vhwc8RX3id60NWjsFplfeGGrreEiwVpvXG6Jo7YyQ8jnLG7OzfKMUyzIF+637PZEM+cHWofjT/005YzmttF3JTwqdXTIg0w4Ho5aS2z9uVNNChbj3UCQ/5wPzzd1k= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1719528205; c=relaxed/simple; bh=dSJoKrKoj9w0AJNQKBShni8tquEeO1Iztv2NUPIFACc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=ixhVBxbuTQfE5MNfCjm4yaikAHWkwai4dVxNHSJjRineYKPUUQUH7c6xfuC0b9pXnNHDOMRGz5TUWFl83IFDR5StlabPl3/L3Gxo0TzhD0NbE2/hX7ZJKfHMdl1FV48L5ioE7Vq3eS9RX7EbQX4Pwr032eisB23LfJe2TrktSh0= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=bootlin.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=bootlin.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=bootlin.com header.i=@bootlin.com header.b=h0BcoNEn; arc=none smtp.client-ip=217.70.183.196 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=bootlin.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=bootlin.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=bootlin.com header.i=@bootlin.com header.b="h0BcoNEn" Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A7CC6E0002; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:43:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bootlin.com; s=gm1; t=1719528202; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=dLEu0TIlpm/jNlDq8RrtIfscO374jrNyb9NXvdvHY4A=; b=h0BcoNEn7E8GXUTHSPQW+fKSsWO+4XTUpakYbbwg+81+j34QbKePN+Ur/MMIsfNdNuNTlq Fsf2oCFlg/cN91C7Va/AFNbW3OG20u8Cko5bD6aq9iozSLAYub3dzu+xLe47+s5yrif0ir rQhDWwfxkJyuz/RxOuTerfxf2HwP/ZC+GQIDqv63is+p8z3HHbgy5Pck2cA1/HH9qXYQXo yL2DEDaVFWuwW07T/kti7WLXsv5qmFwHbNPX2/A/8aDbSLNSGEf4PqEeLy4A4BArlrz/W5 hACWG7fiexEYGpqBP8IF8qo3qnFi5XEAo0X1vN/ubd3PVh7wDXdqTcG3jg2DBA== Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:43:21 +0200 From: Alexandre Belloni To: Leonard Anderweit Cc: "arnd@arndb.de" , "linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "upstream@phytec.de" Subject: Re: Question about [PATCH] [RFC] rtc: y2038: remove broken RTC_HCTOSYS workaround Message-ID: <20240627224321db4557b2@mail.local> References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com On 24/06/2024 11:41:41+0000, Leonard Anderweit wrote: > Hi, > > I found this patch [1] which is necessary for a project I'm currently > working on. I'm using phyboard-wega [2] with an am335 ARM SoC which I > want to make y2038 proof. > Is there any reason it was never accepted? > The systemd maintainer think the kernel is well placed to take a decision it can't actually take so they won't fix a bug where systemd is crashing when userspace is 32bit. The whole situation is frustrating and honestly, nobody should use the hctosys insanity anyway. Obviously systemd mandates its usage and this is yet another topic on which they think the kernel is better placed to take decisions that are actually userspace policy. I've been arguing for a while and gave up. > [1]https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220908115337.1604277-1-arnd@kernel.org/ > [2]https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/am335x-wega-rdk.dts > > Regards > Leonard -- Alexandre Belloni, co-owner and COO, Bootlin Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering https://bootlin.com