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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: stuart hayes <stuart.w.hayes@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Martin Belanger <Martin.Belanger@dell.com>,
	Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Wagner <dwagner@suse.de>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	David Jeffery <djeffery@redhat.com>,
	Jeremy Allison <jallison@ciq.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/4] driver core: shut down devices asynchronously
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 07:04:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240702050414.GA22160@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8a7ae125-883c-4c45-8b89-791066fb5866@gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 12:57:40PM -0500, stuart hayes wrote:
>> We discussed this before, but there is no summary of it and I of course
>> forgot the conclusion:
>>
>>   - why don't we do this by default?
>
> It is done by default in this version, for devices whose drivers opt-in.
>
> In the previous discussion, you mentioned that you thought "safe" was the
> only sensible option (where "safe" was driver opt-in to async shutdown)...
> that is the default (and only) option with this version.  Greg K-H also
> requested opt-in as well, and suggested that "on" (driver opt-out) could
> be removed.
>
>>   - why is it safe to user enable it?
>
> I guess it isn't necessarily safe, if there are any drivers that can't
> handle their devices shutting down asynchronously. I thought it would be
> nice to be able to enable driver opt-in from user space for testing, before
> changing the default setting for the driver.

I was mostly getting into the contradiction that either we think the
async shutdown is safe everywhere, in which case we don't need a driver
opt-in, or it is not, in which case allowing user to just enabled it
also seems like a bad idea.

> I can correct these lines. I thought that an 80 character line length limit
> was no longer required, and saw another line a few lines above these that was
> even longer... and the checkpatch script didn't flag it either.

checkpatch is unfortunately completely broken, it flags totally harmless
things and doesn't catch other things.  > 80 characters are allowed for
individual lines where it improves readability.  The exact definition
of that depends on the maintainers and reviewers, but outside of
string constants I can't really find anything where it does.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-02  5:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-26 19:46 [PATCH v7 0/4] shut down devices asynchronously Stuart Hayes
2024-06-26 19:46 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] driver core: don't always lock parent in shutdown Stuart Hayes
2024-06-27  5:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-27  7:30     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-06-26 19:46 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] driver core: separate function to shutdown one device Stuart Hayes
2024-06-27  5:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-26 19:46 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] driver core: shut down devices asynchronously Stuart Hayes
2024-06-27  5:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-01 17:57     ` stuart hayes
2024-07-02  5:04       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-07-02 19:00         ` stuart hayes
2024-06-26 19:46 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] nvme-pci: Make driver prefer asynchronous shutdown Stuart Hayes
2024-06-26 19:58 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] shut down devices asynchronously Keith Busch
2024-06-30  8:49 ` Sagi Grimberg

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