From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
mhiramat@kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com, mingo@redhat.com,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, jolsa@kernel.org, clm@meta.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/12] uprobes: add batched register/unregister APIs and per-CPU RW semaphore
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:18:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240702191857.GJ11386@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzaQUzQdba2=F2NoV7=Th98fxz2EN62QX2Ej92bazt1GAg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 10:54:51AM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > @@ -593,6 +595,12 @@ static struct uprobe *get_uprobe(struct uprobe *uprobe)
> > return uprobe;
> > }
> >
> > +static void uprobe_free_rcu(struct rcu_head *rcu)
> > +{
> > + struct uprobe *uprobe = container_of(rcu, struct uprobe, rcu);
> > + kfree(uprobe);
> > +}
> > +
> > static void put_uprobe(struct uprobe *uprobe)
> > {
> > if (refcount_dec_and_test(&uprobe->ref)) {
> > @@ -604,7 +612,8 @@ static void put_uprobe(struct uprobe *uprobe)
>
> right above this we have roughly this:
>
> percpu_down_write(&uprobes_treelock);
>
> /* refcount check */
> rb_erase(&uprobe->rb_node, &uprobes_tree);
>
> percpu_up_write(&uprobes_treelock);
>
>
> This writer lock is necessary for modification of the RB tree. And I
> was under impression that I shouldn't be doing
> percpu_(down|up)_write() inside the normal
> rcu_read_lock()/rcu_read_unlock() region (percpu_down_write has
> might_sleep() in it). But maybe I'm wrong, hopefully Paul can help to
> clarify.
preemptible RCU or SRCU would work.
>
> But actually what's wrong with RCU Tasks Trace flavor?
Paul, isn't this the RCU flavour you created to deal with
!rcu_is_watching()? The flavour that never should have been created in
favour of just cleaning up the mess instead of making more.
> I will
> ultimately use it anyway to avoid uprobe taking unnecessary refcount
> and to protect uprobe->consumers iteration and uc->handler() calls,
> which could be sleepable, so would need rcu_read_lock_trace().
I don't think you need trace-rcu for that. SRCU would do nicely I think.
> > mutex_lock(&delayed_uprobe_lock);
> > delayed_uprobe_remove(uprobe, NULL);
> > mutex_unlock(&delayed_uprobe_lock);
> > - kfree(uprobe);
> > +
> > + call_rcu(&uprobe->rcu, uprobe_free_rcu);
> > }
> > }
> >
> > @@ -668,12 +677,25 @@ static struct uprobe *__find_uprobe(struct inode *inode, loff_t offset)
> > static struct uprobe *find_uprobe(struct inode *inode, loff_t offset)
> > {
> > struct uprobe *uprobe;
> > + unsigned seq;
> >
> > - read_lock(&uprobes_treelock);
> > - uprobe = __find_uprobe(inode, offset);
> > - read_unlock(&uprobes_treelock);
> > + guard(rcu)();
> >
> > - return uprobe;
> > + do {
> > + seq = read_seqcount_begin(&uprobes_seqcount);
> > + uprobes = __find_uprobe(inode, offset);
> > + if (uprobes) {
> > + /*
> > + * Lockless RB-tree lookups are prone to false-negatives.
> > + * If they find something, it's good. If they do not find,
> > + * it needs to be validated.
> > + */
> > + return uprobes;
> > + }
> > + } while (read_seqcount_retry(&uprobes_seqcount, seq));
> > +
> > + /* Really didn't find anything. */
> > + return NULL;
> > }
>
> Honest question here, as I don't understand the tradeoffs well enough.
> Is there a lot of benefit to switching to seqcount lock vs using
> percpu RW semaphore (previously recommended by Ingo). The latter is a
> nice drop-in replacement and seems to be very fast and scale well.
As you noted, that percpu-rwsem write side is quite insane. And you're
creating this batch complexity to mitigate that.
The patches you propose are quite complex, this alternative not so much.
> Right now we are bottlenecked on uprobe->register_rwsem (not
> uprobes_treelock anymore), which is currently limiting the scalability
> of uprobes and I'm going to work on that next once I'm done with this
> series.
Right, but it looks fairly simple to replace that rwsem with a mutex and
srcu.
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[not found] <20240701223935.3783951-1-andrii@kernel.org>
[not found] ` <20240702102353.GG11386@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
2024-07-02 11:54 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] uprobes: add batched register/unregister APIs and per-CPU RW semaphore Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-02 12:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-02 17:54 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-02 19:18 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-07-02 23:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-03 4:54 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-03 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-03 14:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-04 8:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-04 15:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-03 21:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-03 22:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-03 4:47 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-03 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-03 20:55 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-03 21:33 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-04 9:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-04 13:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-04 15:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-08 17:47 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-08 17:48 ` Andrii Nakryiko
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