From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
mhiramat@kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com, mingo@redhat.com,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, jolsa@kernel.org, clm@meta.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/12] uprobes: add batched register/unregister APIs and per-CPU RW semaphore
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:07:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240703080736.GL11386@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzZuEicv3DkYA8HYG10QnBURK4SFddhTbA06=eOKQr82PA@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 09:47:41PM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > As you noted, that percpu-rwsem write side is quite insane. And you're
> > creating this batch complexity to mitigate that.
>
>
> Note that batch API is needed regardless of percpu RW semaphore or
> not. As I mentioned, once uprobes_treelock is mitigated one way or the
> other, the next one is uprobe->register_rwsem. For scalability, we
> need to get rid of it and preferably not add any locking at all. So
> tentatively I'd like to have lockless RCU-protected iteration over
> uprobe->consumers list and call consumer->handler(). This means that
> on uprobes_unregister we'd need synchronize_rcu (for whatever RCU
> flavor we end up using), to ensure that we don't free uprobe_consumer
> memory from under handle_swbp() while it is actually triggering
> consumers.
>
> So, without batched unregistration we'll be back to the same problem
> I'm solving here: doing synchronize_rcu() for each attached uprobe one
> by one is prohibitively slow. We went through this exercise with
> ftrace/kprobes already and fixed it with batched APIs. Doing that for
> uprobes seems unavoidable as well.
I'm not immediately seeing how you need that terrible refcount stuff for
the batching though. If all you need is group a few unregisters together
in order to share a sync_rcu() that seems way overkill.
You seem to have muddled the order of things, which makes the actual
reason for doing things utterly unclear.
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2024-07-02 11:54 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] uprobes: add batched register/unregister APIs and per-CPU RW semaphore Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-02 12:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-02 17:54 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-02 19:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-02 23:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-03 4:54 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-03 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-03 14:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-04 8:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-04 15:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-03 21:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-03 22:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-03 4:47 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-03 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-07-03 20:55 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-03 21:33 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-04 9:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-04 13:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-04 15:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-08 17:47 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-07-08 17:48 ` Andrii Nakryiko
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