From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, acme@kernel.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
irogers@google.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
ak@linux.intel.com, eranian@google.com,
Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@amd.com>,
Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>,
silviazhao <silviazhao-oc@zhaoxin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 1/5] perf/x86: Extend event update interface
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:36:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240801163618.GD39708@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f9b18e66-eb7d-4998-8843-b1a16cc004b0@linux.intel.com>
On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 11:31:40AM -0400, Liang, Kan wrote:
>
>
> On 2024-08-01 10:03 a.m., Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 07:38:31AM -0700, kan.liang@linux.intel.com wrote:
> >> From: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
> >>
> >> The current event update interface directly reads the values from the
> >> counter, but the values may not be the accurate ones users require. For
> >> example, the sample read feature wants the counter value of the member
> >> events when the leader event is overflow. But with the current
> >> implementation, the read (event update) actually happens in the NMI
> >> handler. There may be a small gap between the overflow and the NMI
> >> handler.
> >
> > This...
> >
> >> The new Intel PEBS counters snapshotting feature can provide
> >> the accurate counter value in the overflow. The event update interface
> >> has to be updated to apply the given accurate values.
> >>
> >> Pass the accurate values via the event update interface. If the value is
> >> not available, still directly read the counter.
> >
> >> diff --git a/arch/x86/events/core.c b/arch/x86/events/core.c
> >> index 12f2a0c14d33..07a56bf71160 100644
> >> --- a/arch/x86/events/core.c
> >> +++ b/arch/x86/events/core.c
> >> @@ -112,7 +112,7 @@ u64 __read_mostly hw_cache_extra_regs
> >> * Can only be executed on the CPU where the event is active.
> >> * Returns the delta events processed.
> >> */
> >> -u64 x86_perf_event_update(struct perf_event *event)
> >> +u64 x86_perf_event_update(struct perf_event *event, u64 *val)
> >> {
> >> struct hw_perf_event *hwc = &event->hw;
> >> int shift = 64 - x86_pmu.cntval_bits;
> >> @@ -131,7 +131,10 @@ u64 x86_perf_event_update(struct perf_event *event)
> >> */
> >> prev_raw_count = local64_read(&hwc->prev_count);
> >> do {
> >> - rdpmcl(hwc->event_base_rdpmc, new_raw_count);
> >> + if (!val)
> >> + rdpmcl(hwc->event_base_rdpmc, new_raw_count);
> >> + else
> >> + new_raw_count = *val;
> >> } while (!local64_try_cmpxchg(&hwc->prev_count,
> >> &prev_raw_count, new_raw_count));
> >>
> >
> > Does that mean the following is possible?
> >
> > Two counters: C0 and C1, where C0 is a PEBS counter that also samples
> > C1.
> >
> > C0: overflow-with-PEBS-assist -> PEBS entry with counter value A
> > (DS buffer threshold not reached)
> >
> > C1: overflow -> PMI -> x86_perf_event_update(C1, NULL)
> > rdpmcl reads value 'A+d', and sets prev_raw_count
> >
> > C0: more assists, hit DS threshold -> PMI
> > PEBS processing does x86_perf_event_update(C1, A)
> > and sets prev_raw_count *backwards*
>
> I think the C0 PMI handler doesn't touch other counters unless
> PERF_SAMPLE_READ is applied. For the PERF_SAMPLE_READ, only one counter
> does sampling. It's impossible that C0 and C1 do sampling at the same
> time. I don't think the above scenario is possible.
It is perfectly fine for C0 to have PERF_SAMPLE_READ and C1 to be a
normal counter, sampling or otherwise.
> Maybe we can add the below check to further prevent the abuse of the
> interface.
There is no abuse in the above scenario. You can have a group with all
sampling events and any number of them can have PERF_SAMPLE_READ. This
is perfectly fine.
> WARN_ON_ONCE(!(event->attr.sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_READ) && val);
I don't see how PERF_SAMPLE_READ is relevant, *any* PMI for the C1 event
will cause x86_perf_event_update() to be called. And remember that even
non-sampling events have EVENTSEL_INT set to deal with counter overflow.
The problem here is that C0/PEBS will come in late and try to force
update an out-of-date value.
If you have C1 be a non-sampling event, this will typically not happen,
but it still *can*, and when you do, you get your counter moving
backwards.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-01 16:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-31 14:38 [PATCH V4 0/5] Support Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake core PMU kan.liang
2024-07-31 14:38 ` [PATCH V4 1/5] perf/x86: Extend event update interface kan.liang
2024-08-01 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-01 15:31 ` Liang, Kan
2024-08-01 16:36 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-08-01 19:18 ` Liang, Kan
2024-07-31 14:38 ` [PATCH V4 2/5] perf: Extend perf_output_read kan.liang
2024-07-31 14:38 ` [PATCH V4 3/5] perf/x86/intel: Move PEBS event update after the sample output kan.liang
2024-07-31 14:38 ` [PATCH V4 4/5] perf/x86/intel: Support PEBS counters snapshotting kan.liang
2024-07-31 14:38 ` [PATCH V4 5/5] perf/x86/intel: Support RDPMC metrics clear mode kan.liang
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