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From: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com,
	Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/4] PCI: Allow PCI bridges to go to D3Hot on all Devicetree based platforms
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 18:11:07 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240806124107.GB2968@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZrHITXLkKrDbQKQp@wunner.de>

On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 08:53:01AM +0200, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2024 at 07:05:55PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 02, 2024 at 12:13:31PM +0200, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > The PCI core cannot put devices into D3cold without help from the
> > > platform.  Checking whether D3cold is possible (or allowed or
> > > whatever) thus requires asking platform support code via
> > > platform_pci_power_manageable(), platform_pci_choose_state() etc.
> > > 
> > > I think patch [3/4] is a little confusing because it creates
> > > infrastructure to decide whether D3cold is supported (allowed?)
> > > but we already have that in the platform_pci_*() functions.
> > > So I'm not sure if patch [3/4] adds value.  I think generally
> > > speaking if D3hot isn't possible (allowed?), D3cold is assumed
> > > to not be possible either.
> > 
> > Why? D3Hot is useful for runtime PM and if the platform doesn't want to do
> > runtime PM, it can always skip D3Hot (not ideal though).
> 
> AFAICS we always program the device to go to D3hot and the platform
> then cuts power, thereby putting it into D3cold.  So D3hot is never
> skipped.  See __pci_set_power_state():
> 
> 	if (state == PCI_D3cold) {
> 		/*
> 		 * To put the device in D3cold, put it into D3hot in the native
> 		 * way, then put it into D3cold using platform ops.
> 		 */
> 		error = pci_set_low_power_state(dev, PCI_D3hot, locked);
> 
> 		if (pci_platform_power_transition(dev, PCI_D3cold))
> 			return error;
> 

This is applicable only to pci_set_power_state(), but AFAIK PCIe spec doesn't
mandate switching to D3Hot for entering D3Cold. So the PCIe host controller
drivers (especically non-ACPI platforms) may just send PME_Turn_Off followed by
removing the slot power (which again is not controlled by pci_set_power_state())
as there are no non-ACPI related hooks as of now.

- Mani

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-06 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-02  5:54 [PATCH v5 0/4] PCI: Allow D3Hot for PCI bridges in Devicetree based platforms Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2024-08-02  5:55 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] PCI/portdrv: Make use of pci_dev::bridge_d3 for checking the D3 possibility Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2024-08-02  9:49   ` Lukas Wunner
2024-08-02 11:19     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-08-02 20:07       ` Lukas Wunner
2024-08-05 13:24         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-06  6:46           ` Lukas Wunner
2024-08-06 11:48             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-02  5:55 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] PCI: Rename pci_bridge_d3_possible() to pci_bridge_d3_allowed() Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2024-08-03 11:03   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-05 13:26     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-02  5:55 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] PCI: Decouple D3Hot and D3Cold handling for bridges Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2024-08-19 12:44   ` Oliver Neukum
2024-08-20  6:00     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-20 23:45       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-29  6:10         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-21  1:45   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-28 15:52     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-28 21:07       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-29  5:22         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-21 18:54           ` Brian Norris
2024-08-02  5:55 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] PCI: Allow PCI bridges to go to D3Hot on all Devicetree based platforms Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2024-08-02 10:13   ` Lukas Wunner
2024-08-05 13:35     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-06  6:53       ` Lukas Wunner
2024-08-06 12:41         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam [this message]
2024-08-06 13:02           ` Lukas Wunner
2024-08-06 14:39             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-06 20:20               ` Lukas Wunner
2024-08-19 15:34                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-06 20:58               ` Hsin-Yi Wang
2024-11-21 18:53   ` Brian Norris

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