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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] sched_ext: Initial pull request for v6.11
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 00:53:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240813225307.GC10328@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zruwioj86jQz8Oq6@slm.duckdns.org>

On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 09:14:18AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Peter.
> 
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 10:45:42PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> ...
> > > It is tricky because the kernel part can't make assumptions about whether
> > > two tasks are even on the same timeline. In the usual scheduling path, this
> > > isn't a problem as the decision is made by the BPF scheduler from balance()
> > > - if it wants to keep running the current task, it doesn't dispatch a new
> > > one. Otherwise, it dispatches the next task.
> > 
> > But I have a question.. don't you clear scx.slice when a task needs to
> > be preempted? That is, why isn't that condition sufficient to determine
> > if curr has precedence over the first queued? If curr and it is still
> > queued and its slice is non-zero, take curr.
> 
> scx.slice is used a bit different from other sched classes mostly because
> there are two layers - the SCX core and the BPF scheduler itself. The BPF
> scheduler uses scx.slice to tell the SCX core to "don't bother asking about
> it until the current slice has been exhausted" - ie. it's a way to offload
> things like tick handling and preemption by higher priority sched classes to
> SCX core. When scx.slice expires, the BPF scheduler's dispatch() is called
> which can then decide whether to replenish the slice of the current task or
> something else should run and so on.

Right, but can't we flip that on its head and state that when scx.slice
is non-zero, we should pick current and not bother asking for what's
next?

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-13 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-15 22:32 [GIT PULL] sched_ext: Initial pull request for v6.11 Tejun Heo
2024-07-23 16:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-23 19:34   ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-24  8:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-24 17:38       ` David Vernet
2024-07-31  1:36       ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-02 11:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-02 16:09           ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-02 17:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-06 21:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-06 21:34           ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-06 21:55             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-06 22:09               ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-10 20:45                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-13 19:14                   ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-13 22:53                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-08-21 23:08                       ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-06 19:56       ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-06 20:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-06 20:20           ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-02 12:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-02 18:47     ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-06  8:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-06 19:17         ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-25  1:19 ` Qais Yousef
2024-07-30  9:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-31  1:11     ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-31  1:22   ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-01 13:17     ` Qais Yousef
2024-08-01 16:36       ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-05  1:44         ` Qais Yousef
2024-08-01  2:50   ` Russell Haley
2024-08-01 15:52     ` Qais Yousef

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