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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maciej W . Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
	"Mika Westerberg" <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"Lukas Wunner" <lukas@wunner.de>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	"Duc Dang" <ducdang@google.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Li, Gary" <Gary.Li@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] PCI: Use Configuration RRS to wait for device ready
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 16:42:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240828214218.GA40398@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30d9589a-8050-421b-a9a5-ad3422feadad@amd.com>

On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 04:24:01PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> On 8/27/2024 18:48, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > From: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
> > 
> > After a device reset, pci_dev_wait() waits for a device to become
> > completely ready by polling the PCI_COMMAND register.  The spec envisions
> > that software would instead poll for the device to stop responding to
> > config reads with Completions with Request Retry Status (RRS).
> > 
> > Polling PCI_COMMAND leads to hardware retries that are invisible to
> > software and the backoff between software retries doesn't work correctly.
> > 
> > Root Ports are not required to support the Configuration RRS Software
> > Visibility feature that prevents hardware retries and makes the RRS
> > Completions visible to software, so this series only uses it when available
> > and falls back to PCI_COMMAND polling when it's not.
> > 
> > This is completely untested and posted for comments.
> > 
> > Bjorn Helgaas (3):
> >    PCI: Wait for device readiness with Configuration RRS
> >    PCI: aardvark: Correct Configuration RRS checking
> >    PCI: Rename CRS Completion Status to RRS
> > 
> >   drivers/bcma/driver_pci_host.c             | 10 ++--
> >   drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-tegra194.c | 18 +++---
> >   drivers/pci/controller/pci-aardvark.c      | 64 +++++++++++-----------
> >   drivers/pci/controller/pci-xgene.c         |  6 +-
> >   drivers/pci/controller/pcie-iproc.c        | 18 +++---
> >   drivers/pci/pci-bridge-emul.c              |  4 +-
> >   drivers/pci/pci.c                          | 41 +++++++++-----
> >   drivers/pci/pci.h                          | 11 +++-
> >   drivers/pci/probe.c                        | 33 +++++------
> >   include/linux/bcma/bcma_driver_pci.h       |  2 +-
> >   include/linux/pci.h                        |  1 +
> >   include/uapi/linux/pci_regs.h              |  6 +-
> >   12 files changed, 117 insertions(+), 97 deletions(-)
> 
> Although this looks like a useful series, I'm sorry to say but this doesn't
> solve the issue that Gary and I raised.  We double checked today and found
> that reading the vendor ID works just fine at this time.

Thanks for testing that.

> I think that we're still better off polling PCI_PM_CTRL to "wait" for D0
> after the state change from D3cold.

Is there some spec justification for polling PCI_PM_CTRL?  I'm dubious
about doing that just because "it works" in this situation, unless we
have some better understanding about *why* it works and whether all
devices are supposed to work that way.

Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-28 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-27 23:48 [RFC PATCH 0/3] PCI: Use Configuration RRS to wait for device ready Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-27 23:48 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] PCI: Wait for device readiness with Configuration RRS Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-28  4:17   ` Lukas Wunner
2024-08-28 20:53     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-11  0:42   ` Duc Dang
2024-08-27 23:48 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] PCI: aardvark: Correct Configuration RRS checking Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-27 23:48 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] PCI: Rename CRS Completion Status to RRS Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-28 21:24 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] PCI: Use Configuration RRS to wait for device ready Mario Limonciello
2024-08-28 21:42   ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2024-08-28 22:26     ` Mario Limonciello
2024-08-29 23:12       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-10  0:59 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-10 22:55 ` Bjorn Helgaas

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