From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
Cc: "Andy Shevchenko" <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
"Philipp Stanner" <pstanner@redhat.com>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Fix devres regression in pci_intx()
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:56:47 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240904195647.6489fedd.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65fe5c47-e420-4b4d-a575-2bb90e13482c@kernel.org>
On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 09:33:35 +0900
Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org> wrote:
> On 2024/09/05 6:10, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 23:24:53 +0300
> > Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 12:07:21PM -0600, Alex Williamson kirjoitti:
> >>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2024 15:37:25 +0200
> >>> Philipp Stanner <pstanner@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 2024-09-04 at 17:25 +0900, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>>> If vfio-pci can get rid of pci_intx() alltogether, that might be a good
> >>>> thing. As far as I understood Andy Shevchenko, pci_intx() is outdated.
> >>>> There's only a hand full of users anyways.
> >>>
> >>> What's the alternative?
> >>
> >> From API perspective the pci_alloc_irq_vectors() & Co should be used.
> >
> > We can't replace a device level INTx control with a vector allocation
> > function.
> >
> >>> vfio-pci has a potentially unique requirement
> >>> here, we don't know how to handle the device interrupt, we only forward
> >>> it to the userspace driver. As a level triggered interrupt, INTx will
> >>> continue to assert until that userspace driver handles the device.
> >>> That's obviously unacceptable from a host perspective, so INTx is
> >>> masked at the device via pci_intx() where available, or at the
> >>> interrupt controller otherwise. The API with the userspace driver
> >>> requires that driver to unmask the interrupt, again resulting in a call
> >>> to pci_intx() or unmasking the interrupt controller, in order to receive
> >>> further interrupts from the device. Thanks,
> >>
> >> I briefly read the discussion and if I understand it correctly the problem here
> >> is in the flow: when the above mentioned API is being called. Hence it's design
> >> (or architectural) level of issue and changing call from foo() to bar() won't
> >> magically make problem go away. But I might be mistaken.
> >
> > Certainly from a vector allocation standpoint we can change to whatever
> > is preferred, but the direct INTx manipulation functions are a
> > different thing entirely and afaik there's nothing else that can
> > replace them at a low level, nor can we just get rid of our calls to
> > pci_intx(). Thanks,
>
> But can these calls be moved out of the spinlock context ? If not, then we need
> to clarify that pci_intx() can be called from any context, which will require
> changing to a GFP_ATOMIC for the resource allocation, even if the use case
> cannot trigger the allocation. This is needed to ensure the correctness of the
> pci_intx() function use. Frankly, I am surprised that the might sleep splat you
> got was not already reported before (fuzzying, static analyzers might eventually
> catch that though).
>
> The other solution would be a version of pci_intx() that has a gfp flags
> argument to allow callers to use the right gfp flags for the call context.
In vfio-pci we're trying to achieve mutual exclusion of the device
interrupt masking between IRQ context and userspace context, so the
problem really does not lend itself to pulling the pci_intx() call out
of an atomic context. I'll also note again that from a non-devres
perspective, pci_intx() is only setting or clearing a bit in the
command register, so it's a hefty imposition to restrict the function
in general for an allocation in the devres path. Thanks,
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-05 1:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-25 12:07 [PATCH] PCI: Fix devres regression in pci_intx() Philipp Stanner
2024-07-25 14:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-25 15:21 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-07-25 15:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-25 21:00 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-07-26 0:19 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-07-26 18:43 ` pstanner
2024-07-26 18:59 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-07-29 11:29 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-07-29 15:45 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-09-03 15:44 ` Alex Williamson
2024-09-04 7:06 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-09-04 8:25 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-09-04 13:37 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-09-04 18:07 ` Alex Williamson
2024-09-04 20:24 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-09-04 21:10 ` Alex Williamson
2024-09-05 0:33 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-09-05 1:56 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2024-09-05 7:13 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-09-06 0:37 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-09-06 6:45 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-09-04 12:57 ` Alex Williamson
2024-09-04 13:29 ` Philipp Stanner
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