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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Roman Kisel <romank@linux.microsoft.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, apais@microsoft.com,
	benhill@microsoft.com, ssengar@microsoft.com,
	sunilmut@microsoft.com, vdso@hexbites.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] ptrace: Get tracer PID without reliance on the proc FS
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 13:48:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240906114819.GA20831@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240906112345.GA17874@redhat.com>

Forgot to ask...

Do you really want the tracer's pid or can PTRACE_TRACER/whatever
simply return the !!current->ptrace boolean? The changelog should
probably explain this too.

On 09/06, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> Add cc's. Perhaps someone else can ack/nack the intent...
>
> This (trivial) patch is obviously buggy, but fixable. I won't argue
> if it can help userspace.
>
> On 09/05, Roman Kisel wrote:
> >
> > For debugging, it might be useful to run the debug trap
> > instruction to break into the debugger. To detect the debugger
> > presence, the kernel provides the `/proc/self/status` pseudo-file
> > that needs to be searched for the "TracerPid:" string.
> >
> > Provide a prctl command that returns the PID of the tracer if any.
>
> prctl?
>
> > That allows for much simpler logic in the user land, and makes it
> > possible to detect tracer presence even if PROC_FS is not enabled.
>
> You should probably move the links from 0/1 to the changelog to make
> it more convincing.
>
> > +	if (request == PTRACE_TRACER) {
> > +		rcu_read_lock();
> > +		tracer = ptrace_parent(current);
> > +		ret = tracer ? task_pid_nr_ns(tracer,
> > +					task_active_pid_ns(current->parent)) : -ESRCH;
>
> The namespace is wrong, we need task_active_pid_ns(current). So this
> code should simply do task_tgid_vnr(tracer) like sys_getppid() does.
> And to me it would be better to return 0 if !current->ptrace.
>
> > +		rcu_read_unlock();
> > +		goto out;
>
> Wrong, this code runs after "child = find_get_task_by_vpid(pid);" above.
>
> And why? perhaps the intent was to check if this child is traced, not
> current?
>
> Oleg.
>


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-06 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-05 21:27 [PATCH 0/1] Get tracer PID without reliance on the proc FS Roman Kisel
2024-09-05 21:27 ` [PATCH 1/1] ptrace: " Roman Kisel
2024-09-06 11:24   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-06 11:48     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-09-06 19:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-06 20:08       ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-06 20:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-06 21:15           ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-09 16:18             ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-09-09 17:05               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-09 17:34                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-09-09 17:22               ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-06 20:55         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-06 21:25           ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-08 14:08             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-09 15:19               ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-09 16:42                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-09 17:05                   ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-07 19:33   ` kernel test robot
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-09-07  8:45 Jubilee Young
2024-09-09 19:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-10 15:40   ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-11 14:44     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-11 17:41       ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-11 19:53         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-11 19:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-11 20:14             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-11 20:25           ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-10 16:34 ` Eric W. Biederman

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