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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Jubilee Young <workingjubilee@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, apais@microsoft.com,
	benhill@microsoft.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, romank@linux.microsoft.com,
	ssengar@microsoft.com, sunilmut@microsoft.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, vdso@hexbites.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] ptrace: Get tracer PID without reliance on the proc FS
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 21:37:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240909193725.GD14058@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPNHn3rTjMcbNXRpZTBc-zEkmnnMJO2iem9-eUdBkyaquz88rw@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/07, Jubilee Young wrote:
>
> > Perhaps it makes sense to discuss the alternatives? Say, a process can have a
> > please_insert_the_breakpoint_here() function implemented in asm which just does
> > asm(ret).
>
> There's some merit in having the debuggers recognize this pattern, as that
> then would save every language that wants to have this power available
> the trouble of reimplementing it. But first debuggers must recognize it,
> which would require teaching each of them, which can be... tedious.

Yet another thing in this discussion I can't understand... sorry, I tried.
You do not need to teach, say, gdb to recognize this pattern. You can just do

	$ gdb -ex 'b please_insert_the_breakpoint_here' ...

Nevermind, as I have already said you can safely ignore me. I still do not
see any "real" use-case for breakpoint_if_debugging(), but I guess that is
due to my ignorance and lack of imagination.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-09 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-07  8:45 [PATCH 1/1] ptrace: Get tracer PID without reliance on the proc FS Jubilee Young
2024-09-09 19:37 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-09-10 15:40   ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-11 14:44     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-11 17:41       ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-11 19:53         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-11 19:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-11 20:14             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-11 20:25           ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-10 16:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-09-05 21:27 [PATCH 0/1] " Roman Kisel
2024-09-05 21:27 ` [PATCH 1/1] ptrace: " Roman Kisel
2024-09-06 11:24   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-06 11:48     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-06 19:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-06 20:08       ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-06 20:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-06 21:15           ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-09 16:18             ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-09-09 17:05               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-09 17:34                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-09-09 17:22               ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-06 20:55         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-06 21:25           ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-08 14:08             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-09 15:19               ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-09 16:42                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-09 17:05                   ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-07 19:33   ` kernel test robot

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