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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Roman Kisel <romank@linux.microsoft.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, apais@microsoft.com,
	benhill@microsoft.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ssengar@microsoft.com,
	sunilmut@microsoft.com, vdso@hexbites.dev,
	workingjubilee@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] ptrace: Get tracer PID without reliance on the proc FS
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:14:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240911201402.GB16757@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjhqn+B85OA8pfLhckUXSwLtJzFq5JPO2cNNzhPN__HJQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/11, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Sept 2024 at 12:54, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >         - please try to make your changelog more convincing. And in particular,
> >           please explain why !!current->ptrace is not enough and this feature
> >           needs the tracer's pid.
>
> Oleg, I realize you like the simpler patch that only has that
                  ^^^^^^^^
No, no, I don't!!! ;)

> "!!current->ptrace", but my point is that even that simpler patch is
> simply WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

and I agree, agree, agree.

> There is simply no valid situation where a "I have a tracer" is a good
> thing to test for.

Yes, yes, and that is why I added you/Eric to this discussion.

I just tried to play fair. I just thought that I can't simply "nack" this
change, because I can't explain why I didn't like the whole idea.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-11 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-07  8:45 [PATCH 1/1] ptrace: Get tracer PID without reliance on the proc FS Jubilee Young
2024-09-09 19:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-10 15:40   ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-11 14:44     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-11 17:41       ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-11 19:53         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-11 19:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-11 20:14             ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-09-11 20:25           ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-10 16:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-09-05 21:27 [PATCH 0/1] " Roman Kisel
2024-09-05 21:27 ` [PATCH 1/1] ptrace: " Roman Kisel
2024-09-06 11:24   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-06 11:48     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-06 19:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-06 20:08       ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-06 20:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-06 21:15           ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-09 16:18             ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-09-09 17:05               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-09 17:34                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-09-09 17:22               ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-06 20:55         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-06 21:25           ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-08 14:08             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-09 15:19               ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-09 16:42                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-09 17:05                   ` Roman Kisel
2024-09-07 19:33   ` kernel test robot

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