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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, song@kernel.org, yukuai3@huawei.com,
	kbusch@kernel.org, sagi@grimberg.me,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/4] block: Make bdev_can_atomic_write() robust against mis-aligned bdev size
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:07:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240912150736.GA5534@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0f2652ce-63e1-4399-8414-0bd150521e1b@oracle.com>

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 03:58:00PM +0100, John Garry wrote:
> On 12/09/2024 14:15, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 03, 2024 at 03:07:45PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
>>> For bdev file operations, a write will be truncated when trying to write
>>> past the end of the device. This could not be tolerated for an atomic
>>> write.
>>>
>>> Ensure that the size of the bdev matches max atomic write unit so that this
>>> truncation would never occur.
>>
>> But we'd still support atomic writes for all but the last sectors of
>> the device? 
>
> We should do be able to, but with this patch we cannot. However, a 
> misaligned partition would be very much unexpected.

Yes, misaligned partitions is very unexpected, but with large and
potentially unlimited atomic boundaries I would not expect the size
to always be aligned.  But then again at least in NVMe atomic writes
don't need to match the max size anyway, so I'm not entirely sure
what the problem actually is.

> I could also just reject any truncation on the atomic write in fops. Maybe 
> that is better.

It probably is.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-12 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-03 15:07 [PATCH RFC 0/4] RAID0 atomic write support John Garry
2024-09-03 15:07 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] block: Make bdev_can_atomic_write() robust against mis-aligned bdev size John Garry
2024-09-12 13:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-12 14:58     ` John Garry
2024-09-12 15:07       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-09-12 15:22         ` John Garry
2024-09-13  8:36           ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-09-03 15:07 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] block: Add BLK_FEAT_ATOMIC_WRITES flag John Garry
2024-09-12 13:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-12 14:58     ` John Garry
2024-09-03 15:07 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] block: Support atomic writes limits for stacked devices John Garry
2024-09-12 13:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-12 15:05     ` John Garry
2024-09-03 15:07 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] md/raid0: Atomic write support John Garry
2024-09-12 13:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-12 14:48     ` John Garry
2024-09-12 15:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-12 15:38         ` John Garry

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