From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
alyssa.milburn@intel.com, scott.d.constable@intel.com,
joao@overdrivepizza.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
jose.marchesi@oracle.com, hjl.tools@gmail.com,
ndesaulniers@google.com, samitolvanen@google.com,
nathan@kernel.org, ojeda@kernel.org, kees@kernel.org,
alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/14] x86/cfi: Wreck things...
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 15:31:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240928133114.GE19439@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240927231527.em2a4cjbnpos6c4u@treble>
On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 04:15:27PM -0700, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 09:48:57PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > vmlinux.o: warning: objtool: .export_symbol+0x3c9f0: data relocation to !ENDBR: entry_untrain_ret+0x0
> >
> > Which states that while these functions are exported and (directly)
> > callable, they cannot be called indirectly. There are two solutions:
>
> IIRC, exported symbols are by far the most common "need" for ENDBR. But
> presumably the vast majority of them aren't being indirect called.
>
> > - exclude the .export_symbol section from validation; effectively
> > saying that having linkable but not indirectly callable exports are
> > fine by default, or
>
> This is confusingly inconsistent IMO.
Yes. OTOH less indirectly callable functions is more better, no?
> > - make all of those use SYM_TYPED_FUNC_START to restore the
> > traditional (and expected, but less secure?) behaviour.
>
> Why not just make SYM_FUNC_START imply "typed"? That's consistent with
> what the compiler does anyway right?
It is indeed what the compiler does (unless __nocfi attribute is
employed), but it requires that there is a C declaration of the function
-- which is true for all exported functions but not necessary for all
SYM_FUNC_START() symbols per-se.
Also, it would make all ASM functions indirectly callable by default --
which I'm not sure is a good idea, I would much rather we keep this
explicit.
> Even better, require exported+indirect-called symbols to use
> EXPORT_SYMBOL_TYPED, otherwise they get sealed. I suppose we'd need to
> add some module-to-vmlinux ENDBR validation to make sure modules don't
> get broken by this.
So I like this idea. but yeah, this is going to be a bit tricky to
validate.
Anyway, I think I'll do an initial patch moving all the EXPORT'ed
symbols over to SYM_TYPED_FUNC_START() for now, and we can look at
adding extra EXPORT magic on top of all that later on.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-28 13:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-27 19:48 [PATCH 00/14] x86/ibt: FineIBT-BHI Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-27 19:48 ` [PATCH 01/14] x86/cfi: Wreck things Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-27 23:15 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-28 13:31 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-09-30 21:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-27 19:48 ` [PATCH 02/14] x86/boot: Mark start_secondary() with __noendbr Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-27 19:48 ` [PATCH 03/14] x86/alternative: Simplify callthunk patching Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-27 23:27 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-27 19:49 ` [PATCH 04/14] objtool/x86: Add .tail_call_sites Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-27 23:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-09 15:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 4:55 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-27 19:49 ` [PATCH 05/14] objtool: Rename the skylake hack to --direct-call Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-27 19:49 ` [PATCH 06/14] x86/traps: Prepare for ENDBR poison UD1 usage Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-27 19:49 ` [PATCH 07/14] x86/ibt: Clean up is_endbr() Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-28 0:04 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-28 13:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-29 17:32 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-09-30 8:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-30 9:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-30 16:43 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-09-30 20:58 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-27 19:49 ` [PATCH 08/14] x86/ibt: Clean up poison_endbr() Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-27 19:49 ` [PATCH 09/14] x86/ibt: Implement IBT+ Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-28 1:07 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-28 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-29 17:38 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-09-30 8:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-30 17:00 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-11-05 10:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-27 19:49 ` [PATCH 10/14] x86/early_printk: Harden early_serial Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-27 19:49 ` [PATCH 11/14] llvm: kCFI pointer stuff Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-29 17:53 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-09-30 8:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-30 16:59 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-10-01 10:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-02 16:48 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-10-30 6:29 ` Constable, Scott D
2024-10-30 20:07 ` Constable, Scott D
2024-09-27 19:49 ` [PATCH 12/14] x86: Hacks for hacked up llvm Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-27 19:49 ` [PATCH 13/14] x86: BHI stubs Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-28 1:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-28 13:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-30 21:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-30 21:46 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-30 22:23 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-09-30 22:38 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-30 22:52 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-10-01 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-01 11:20 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-10-03 12:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-03 13:59 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-10-14 17:50 ` Constable, Scott D
2024-10-14 21:54 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-10-21 15:06 ` Constable, Scott D
2024-10-29 5:59 ` Joao Moreira
2024-09-27 19:49 ` [PATCH 14/14] x86/fineibt: Add FineIBT+BHI mitigation Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-28 1:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-09-28 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-28 5:45 ` Constable, Scott D
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