From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Luis Goncalves <lgoncalv@redhat.com>,
Chunyu Hu <chuhu@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] locking/rtmutex: Always use trylock in rt_mutex_trylock()
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 16:01:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241007140121.GD4879@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241002190108.1115386-1-longman@redhat.com>
On Wed, Oct 02, 2024 at 03:01:08PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> One reason to use a trylock is to avoid a ABBA deadlock in case we need
> to use a locking sequence that is not in the expected locking order. That
> requires the use of trylock all the ways in the abnormal locking
> sequence. Unfortunately, this is not the case for rt_mutex_trylock() as
> it uses a raw_spin_lock_irqsave() to acquire the lock->wait_lock.
This does not explain anything. lock->wait_lock only serializes the lock
internal state and should be fine to be taken like this.
> There are just a few rt_mutex_trylock() call sites in the stock kernel.
> For PREEMPT_RT kernel, however, all the spin_trylock() calls become
> rt_mutex_trylock(). There are a few hundreds of them. So it will be a lot
> easier to trigger a circular locking lockdep splat like the following.
>
> [ 63.695668] -> #0 (&lock->wait_lock){-...}-{2:2}:
> [ 63.695674] check_prev_add+0x1bd/0x1310
> [ 63.695678] validate_chain+0x6cf/0x7c0
> [ 63.695682] __lock_acquire+0x879/0xf40
> [ 63.695686] lock_acquire.part.0+0xfa/0x2d0
> [ 63.695690] _raw_spin_lock_irqsave+0x46/0x90
> [ 63.695695] rt_mutex_slowtrylock+0x3f/0xb0
> [ 63.695699] rt_spin_trylock+0x13/0xc0
> [ 63.695702] rmqueue_pcplist+0x5b/0x180
> [ 63.695705] rmqueue+0xb01/0x1040
> :
> [ 63.695840] other info that might help us debug this:
> [ 63.695840]
> [ 63.695842] Chain exists of:
> [ 63.695842] &lock->wait_lock --> &p->pi_lock --> &rq->__lock
> [ 63.695842]
> [ 63.695850] Possible unsafe locking scenario:
> [ 63.695850]
> [ 63.695851] CPU0 CPU1
> [ 63.695852] ---- ----
> [ 63.695854] lock(&rq->__lock);
> [ 63.695857] lock(&p->pi_lock);
> [ 63.695861] lock(&rq->__lock);
> [ 63.695864] lock(&lock->wait_lock);
> [ 63.695868]
> [ 63.695868] *** DEADLOCK ***
>
This is still useless crap. Please properly describe the locking problem
without truncated lockdep crud.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-07 14:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-02 19:01 [PATCH v2] locking/rtmutex: Always use trylock in rt_mutex_trylock() Waiman Long
2024-10-07 12:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-07 14:01 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
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