From: David Vernet <void@manifault.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: kernel-team@meta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sched-ext@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] sched_ext: bypass mode shouldn't depend on ops.select_cpu()
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 13:31:56 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241010183156.GD28209@maniforge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZwgcU6PKOYMP83MC@slm.duckdns.org>
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 08:26:27AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 01:15:17PM -0500, David Vernet wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 11:41:00AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > > Bypass mode was depending on ops.select_cpu() which can't be trusted as with
> > > the rest of the BPF scheduler. Always enable and use scx_select_cpu_dfl() in
> > > bypass mode.
> >
> > Could you please clarify why we can't trust ops.select_cpu()? Even if it
> > returns a bogus, offline, etc, CPU, shouldn't core.c take care of
> > finding a valid CPU for us in select_fallback_rq()?
>
> For example, if select_cpu() returns the same CPU for all threads on a
> loaded system, that CPU can get very overloaded which can lead to RCU and
> workqueue stalls which can then cascade to other failures.
Ok I see, so it's that it could make such poor scheduling decisions that
the system can't recover. Got it.
> > Assuming we really do require a valid CPU here in bypass mode, do we
> > need to reset the state of the idle masks for the case of
> > !scx_builtin_idle_enabled? The masks won't necessarily reflect the set
> > of online CPUs if we haven't been updating it, right?
>
> I think resched_cpu() after switching each CPU into bypass mode is enough.
> That guarantees that the CPU leaves the idle state, clearing the idle state
> if set, and if the CPU is idle, it goes back into idle, setting the bit, so
> at the end, it ends up synchronized.
Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks for explaining.
Acked-by: David Vernet <void@manifault.com>
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-09 21:40 [PATCHSET sched_ext/for-6.12-fixes] sched_ext: Fix RCU and other stalls while iterating tasks during enable/disable Tejun Heo
2024-10-09 21:40 ` [PATCH 1/6] Revert "sched_ext: Use shorter slice while bypassing" Tejun Heo
2024-10-10 17:59 ` David Vernet
2024-10-09 21:40 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched_ext: Start schedulers with consistent p->scx.slice values Tejun Heo
2024-10-10 18:00 ` David Vernet
2024-10-09 21:40 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched_ext: Move scx_buildin_idle_enabled check to scx_bpf_select_cpu_dfl() Tejun Heo
2024-10-09 21:41 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched_ext: bypass mode shouldn't depend on ops.select_cpu() Tejun Heo
2024-10-10 18:15 ` David Vernet
2024-10-10 18:26 ` Tejun Heo
2024-10-10 18:31 ` David Vernet [this message]
2024-10-09 21:41 ` [PATCH 5/6] sched_ext: Move scx_tasks_lock handling into scx_task_iter helpers Tejun Heo
2024-10-10 18:36 ` David Vernet
2024-10-09 21:41 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched_ext: Don't hold scx_tasks_lock for too long Tejun Heo
2024-10-10 19:12 ` David Vernet
2024-10-10 21:38 ` Tejun Heo
2024-10-10 23:38 ` Waiman Long
2024-10-10 21:43 ` [PATCHSET sched_ext/for-6.12-fixes] sched_ext: Fix RCU and other stalls while iterating tasks during enable/disable Tejun Heo
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