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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: "André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	sonicadvance1@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-dev@igalia.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] futex: Create set_robust_list2
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 12:56:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241104115656.GW33184@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241104113240.GB24862@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 12:32:40PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 02, 2024 at 10:58:42PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> 
> > QEMU hints towards further problems (in linux-user/syscall.c):
> > 
> >     case TARGET_NR_set_robust_list:
> >     case TARGET_NR_get_robust_list:
> >         /* The ABI for supporting robust futexes has userspace pass
> >          * the kernel a pointer to a linked list which is updated by
> >          * userspace after the syscall; the list is walked by the kernel
> >          * when the thread exits. Since the linked list in QEMU guest
> >          * memory isn't a valid linked list for the host and we have
> >          * no way to reliably intercept the thread-death event, we can't
> >          * support these. Silently return ENOSYS so that guest userspace
> >          * falls back to a non-robust futex implementation (which should
> >          * be OK except in the corner case of the guest crashing while
> >          * holding a mutex that is shared with another process via
> >          * shared memory).
> >          */
> >         return -TARGET_ENOSYS;
> 
> I don't think we can sanely fix that. Can't QEMU track the robust thing
> itself and use waitpid() to discover the thread is gone and fudge things
> from there?

Hmm, what about we mandate 'natural' alignement of the structure such
that it is always inside a single page, then QEMU can do the translation
here and hand the kernel the 'real' address.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-04 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-01 16:21 [PATCH v2 0/3] futex: Create set_robust_list2 André Almeida
2024-11-01 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] futex: Use explicit sizes for compat_exit_robust_list André Almeida
2024-11-02  5:44   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-02 14:57   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-01 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] futex: Create set_robust_list2 André Almeida
2024-11-02 16:40   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-04 11:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-04 21:55     ` André Almeida
2024-11-05 12:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-01 16:21 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] futex: Wire up set_robust_list2 syscall André Almeida
2024-11-02  5:13   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-02  6:05   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-02 21:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] futex: Create set_robust_list2 Florian Weimer
2024-11-04 11:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-04 11:56     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-11-04 12:36     ` Florian Weimer
2024-11-05 12:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-04 21:49   ` André Almeida

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