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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Vasileios Amoiridis <vassilisamir@gmail.com>,
	lars@metafoo.de, krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
	andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, anshulusr@gmail.com,
	gustavograzs@gmail.com, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/7] dt-bindings: iio: bosch,bme680: Add supply properties
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 10:10:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241104161033.GA228709-robh@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6sucdv4k5jdovqgtaemeer4cnluvnl3xgyn57mo3elgwdmojrx@phu4gowaqtuv>

On Sun, Nov 03, 2024 at 10:46:46AM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 02, 2024 at 03:33:15PM +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > On Sat,  2 Nov 2024 14:13:09 +0100
> > Vasileios Amoiridis <vassilisamir@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Extend dt-binding for BME680 gas sensor device. The device incorporates
> > > as well temperature, pressure and relative humidity sensors.
> > This description should make it clear it is moving from trivial-devices.yaml
> > 
> > dt-bindings: iio: bosch,bme680: Move from trivial-bindings and add missing supplies.
> > 
> > Then say a little more on why you are moving it.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Vasileios Amoiridis <vassilisamir@gmail.com>
> > 
> > There was an open question on the previous version about
> > setting the supplies as required (which I see you've removed).
> > My understanding previously was that it is fine to make that change
> > in a binding if it reflects supplies that are required to be enabled
> > for the device to function at all.  If there were previously missing
> > that's a binding bug we should fix.
> > 
> > I'd like a clarification from the DT binding maintainers on that.
> > Obviously doesn't work for other users of dt bindings but in
> > Linux this would be fine as they were already on for any board
> > that worked and the regulator framework will through us a fake
> > regulator for cases like this.
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241022182451.00007ac0@Huawei.com/
> > 
> > Jonathan
> 
> That was Rob's objection so I will leave it to him, but putting my two
> cents in for Linux it is not an ABI break because missing regulator
> supplies are substituted with dummy ones. Unless something changed...

Shrug. I don't think we're entirely consistent on this. If we're saying 
supplies are always required, then every device in trivial-devices.yaml 
is wrong. Since Linux handles them missing, you can also argue that 
supplies are never required.

I'd prefer not to special case regulators as an exception I have to 
remember. I have some rudimentary ABI checking I'm working on that 
checks for things like new required properties. Though it wouldn't catch 
this particular change given it moves the schema.

Rob

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-04 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-02 13:13 [PATCH v3 0/7]: iio: chemical: bme680: 2nd round of cleanup Vasileios Amoiridis
2024-11-02 13:13 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] iio: chemical: bme680: refactorize set_mode() mode Vasileios Amoiridis
2024-11-02 15:21   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-02 13:13 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] iio: chemical: bme680: Add SCALE and RAW channels Vasileios Amoiridis
2024-11-02 15:21   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-02 13:13 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] iio: chemical: bme680: Add triggered buffer support Vasileios Amoiridis
2024-11-02 15:24   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-02 13:13 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] iio: chemical: bme680: Add support for preheat current Vasileios Amoiridis
2024-11-02 15:26   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-02 13:13 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] dt-bindings: iio: bosch,bme680: Add supply properties Vasileios Amoiridis
2024-11-02 15:33   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-03  9:46     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-11-04 16:10       ` Rob Herring [this message]
2024-11-11 18:48         ` Vasileios Amoiridis
2024-11-19 14:04           ` Rob Herring
2024-11-02 13:13 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] iio: chemical: bme680: add regulators Vasileios Amoiridis
2024-11-02 13:13 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] iio: chemical: bme680: add power management Vasileios Amoiridis
2024-11-02 15:35   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-03 14:57     ` Vasileios Amoiridis

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