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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	vasant.hegde@amd.com, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	jon.grimm@amd.com, santosh.shukla@amd.com, pandoh@google.com,
	kumaranand@google.com, Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 03/10] asm/rwonce: Introduce [READ|WRITE]_ONCE() support for __int128
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 09:37:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241107133725.GD520535@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c9fd886-3305-4797-9091-3f9b0b9ee0b6@app.fastmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 11:01:58AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> >> and later:
> >> 
> >>  * Yes, this permits 64-bit accesses on 32-bit architectures. These will
> >>  * actually be atomic in some cases (namely Armv7 + LPAE), but for others we
> >>  * rely on the access being split into 2x32-bit accesses for a 32-bit quantity
> >>  * (e.g. a virtual address) and a strong prevailing wind.
> >> 
> >> This is the "strong prevailing wind", mentioned in the patch review at [1].
> >> 
> >> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20241016130819.GJ3559746@nvidia.com/
> 
> I understand the special case for ARMv7VE. I think the more important
> comment in that file is
> 
>   * Use __READ_ONCE() instead of READ_ONCE() if you do not require any
>   * atomicity. Note that this may result in tears!

That makes sense, let's just use that and there is no need to change
anything here?

Uros?

> >> FYI, Processors with AVX guarantee 128bit atomic access with SSE
> >> 128bit move instructions, see e.g. [2].
> >> 
> >> [2] https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=104688
> 
> AVX instructions are not used in the kernel. If you want atomic
> loads, that has to rely on architecture specific instructions
> like cmpxchg16b on x86-64 or ldp on arm64. Actually using these
> requires checking the system_has_cmpxchg128() macro.

Yeah, that is what this series is doing..

Jason

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-07 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-01 16:22 [PATCH v9 00/10] iommu/amd: Use 128-bit cmpxchg operation to update DTE Suravee Suthikulpanit
2024-11-01 16:22 ` [PATCH v9 01/10] iommu/amd: Misc ACPI IVRS debug info clean up Suravee Suthikulpanit
2024-11-01 16:22 ` [PATCH v9 02/10] iommu/amd: Disable AMD IOMMU if CMPXCHG16B feature is not supported Suravee Suthikulpanit
2024-11-01 16:22 ` [PATCH v9 03/10] asm/rwonce: Introduce [READ|WRITE]_ONCE() support for __int128 Suravee Suthikulpanit
2024-11-05 12:30   ` Joerg Roedel
2024-11-06  8:55     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-06 10:01       ` Uros Bizjak
2024-11-06 13:40         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-07 10:01           ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-07 10:30             ` Uros Bizjak
2024-11-07 13:37             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-11-07 13:47               ` Uros Bizjak
2024-11-01 16:22 ` [PATCH v9 04/10] iommu/amd: Introduce struct ivhd_dte_flags to store persistent DTE flags Suravee Suthikulpanit
2024-11-01 16:22 ` [PATCH v9 05/10] iommu/amd: Introduce helper function to update 256-bit DTE Suravee Suthikulpanit
2024-11-01 16:23 ` [PATCH v9 06/10] iommu/amd: Modify set_dte_entry() to use 256-bit DTE helpers Suravee Suthikulpanit
2024-11-01 16:32   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-01 16:23 ` [PATCH v9 07/10] iommu/amd: Introduce helper function get_dte256() Suravee Suthikulpanit
2024-11-01 16:23 ` [PATCH v9 08/10] iommu/amd: Modify clear_dte_entry() to avoid in-place update Suravee Suthikulpanit
2024-11-01 16:23 ` [PATCH v9 09/10] iommu/amd: Lock DTE before updating the entry with WRITE_ONCE() Suravee Suthikulpanit
2024-11-01 16:23 ` [PATCH v9 10/10] iommu/amd: Remove amd_iommu_apply_erratum_63() Suravee Suthikulpanit

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