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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	 Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] overlayfs updates for 6.13
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 19:47:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241123-wortreich-eistee-542b69311fba@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241123-bauhof-tischbein-579ff1db831a@brauner>

On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 01:06:14PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 09:21:58PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 at 01:57, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > - Introduction and use of revert/override_creds_light() helpers, that were
> > >   suggested by Christian as a mitigation to cache line bouncing and false
> > >   sharing of fields in overlayfs creator_cred long lived struct cred copy.
> > 
> > So I don't actively hate this, but I do wonder if this shouldn't have
> > been done differently.
> > 
> > In particular, I suspect *most* users of override_creds() actually
> > wants this "light" version, because they all already hold a ref to the
> > cred that they want to use as the override.
> > 
> > We did it that safe way with the extra refcount not because most
> > people would need it, but it was expected to not be a big deal.
> > 
> > Now you found that it *is* a big deal, and instead of just fixing the
> > old interface, you create a whole new interface and the mental burden
> > of having to know the difference between the two.
> 
> > So may I ask that you look at perhaps just converting the (not very
> > many) users of the non-light cred override to the "light" version?
> 
> I think that could be a good idea in general.
> 
> But I have to say I'm feeling a bit defensive after having read your
> message even though I usually try not to. :) 

It was just pointed out to me that this was written like I'm not reading
you messages - which is obviously not the case. What I means it that I
usually try to not be defensive when valid criticism is brought up. :)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-23 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-22  9:57 [GIT PULL] overlayfs updates for 6.13 Amir Goldstein
2024-11-23  5:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-23  5:22   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-23  6:09   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-23  6:14     ` Al Viro
2024-11-23 17:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-23 12:06   ` Christian Brauner
2024-11-23 17:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-24 13:43       ` [PATCH 00/26] cred: rework {override,revert}_creds() Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 01/26] tree-wide: s/override_creds()/override_creds_light(get_new_cred())/g Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 02/26] cred: return old creds from revert_creds_light() Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 03/26] tree-wide: s/revert_creds()/put_cred(revert_creds_light())/g Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 04/26] cred: remove old {override,revert}_creds() helpers Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 05/26] tree-wide: s/override_creds_light()/override_creds()/g Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 06/26] tree-wide: s/revert_creds_light()/revert_creds()/g Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 07/26] firmware: avoid pointless reference count bump Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 14:56           ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 08/26] sev-dev: avoid pointless cred " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 18:19           ` Al Viro
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 09/26] target_core_configfs: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 18:26           ` Al Viro
2024-11-25 11:31             ` Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 10/26] aio: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 11/26] binfmt_misc: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 12/26] coredump: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:43         ` [PATCH 13/26] nfs/localio: avoid pointless cred reference count bumps Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 14/26] nfs/nfs4idmap: avoid pointless reference count bump Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 15/26] nfs/nfs4recover: avoid pointless cred " Christian Brauner
2024-11-25 13:10           ` Chuck Lever
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 16/26] nfsfh: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-25 13:11           ` Chuck Lever
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 17/26] open: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 18/26] ovl: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 14:59           ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-25 11:30             ` Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 19/26] cifs: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 20/26] " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 21/26] smb: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 18:37           ` Al Viro
2024-11-25 11:22             ` Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 22/26] io_uring: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 23/26] acct: avoid pointless " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 24/26] cgroup: avoid pointless cred " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 25/26] trace: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 13:44         ` [PATCH 26/26] dns_resolver: " Christian Brauner
2024-11-24 17:00         ` [PATCH 00/26] cred: rework {override,revert}_creds() Amir Goldstein
2024-11-24 18:00         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-25 11:46           ` Christian Brauner
2024-11-25 12:55           ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-25 14:13             ` Christian Brauner
2024-11-25 13:51         ` Jeff Layton
2024-11-23 18:47     ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2024-11-23  5:57 ` [GIT PULL] overlayfs updates for 6.13 pr-tracker-bot

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