From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Christophe JAILLET <christophe.jaillet@wanadoo.fr>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Nir Lichtman <nir@lichtman.org>,
Tycho Andersen <tandersen@netflix.com>,
Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] execve updates for v6.13-rc1 (take 2)
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 03:34:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241129033419.GI3387508@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgKgi5eqo6oW0bBS2-Cr+d4jraoKfVq6wbmdiWWsZbMLw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 06:43:31PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> A sane setup has lots of options
>
> - just use execve() with the actual name of the executable
>
> - use hardlinks and use execveat()
>
> - use open() on a symlink and then execveat() of that file, and get
> the actual name of the executable behind the symlink
>
> - disagree about comm[] being relevant at all, and don't use it, and
> don't use tools that do
>
> and none of those are wrong decisions.
Just one thing - IMO we want to use the relative pathname when it's
not empty. Even in execveat(). Because some wanker *will* decide
that newer is better and make libc use execveat() to implement execve().
Which won't be spotted for about a year, and when it does we'll get
seriously stuck.
I agree that for fexecve() the only sane approach is to go by whatever
that opened file refers to; I'm not sold on the _usefulness_ of
fexecve() to start with, but if we want that thing, that's the way
to go.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-29 3:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-21 14:53 [GIT PULL] execve updates for v6.13-rc1 (take 2) Kees Cook
2024-11-25 23:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-26 5:09 ` Kees Cook
2024-11-26 20:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-26 20:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-28 0:53 ` Kees Cook
2024-11-28 1:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-28 2:05 ` Al Viro
2024-11-28 2:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-29 2:08 ` Kees Cook
2024-11-29 2:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-29 3:34 ` Al Viro [this message]
2024-11-29 4:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-11-29 4:48 ` Al Viro
2024-11-29 17:00 ` Casey Schaufler
2024-11-29 19:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-11-29 4:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-29 12:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-11-29 21:42 ` Vegard Nossum
2024-11-29 22:54 ` Al Viro
2024-11-30 4:24 ` Linus Torvalds
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