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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Lai, Yi" <yi1.lai@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	yi1.lai@intel.com, syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/6] perf: Enqueue SIGTRAP always via task_work.
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:28:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241205102840.GB8673@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z1F6_cC4bRvcN56T@pavilion.home>

On 12/05, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>
> Le Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:20:16AM +0100, Oleg Nesterov a écrit :
>
> > > Looking at task_work, it seems that most enqueues happen to the current task.
> > > AFAICT, only io_uring() does remote enqueue. Would it make sense to have a light
> > > version of task_work that is only ever used by current? This would be a very
> > > simple flavour with easy queue and cancellation without locking/atomics/RmW
> > > operations.
> >
> > Perhaps, but we also need to avoid the races with task_work_cancel() from
> > another task. I mean, if a task T does task_work_add_light(work), it can race
> > with task_work_cancel(T, ...) which can change T->task_works on another CPU.
>
> I was thinking about two different lists.

OK... but this needs more thinking/discussion.

> Another alternative is to maintain another head that points to the
> head of the executing list. This way we can have task_work_cancel_current()
> that completely cancels the work. That was my initial proposal here and it
> avoids the lock/xchg for each work:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/Zx-B0wK3xqRQsCOS@localhost.localdomain/

Thanks... Heh, I thought about something like this too ;) Although I thought
that we need a bit more to implement task_work_cancel_sync(). But this is
another story.

> > Hmm. I just noticed that task_work_run() needs a simple fix:
> >
> > 	--- x/kernel/task_work.c
> > 	+++ x/kernel/task_work.c
> > 	@@ -235,7 +235,7 @@
> > 			raw_spin_unlock_irq(&task->pi_lock);
> >
> > 			do {
> > 	-			next = work->next;
> > 	+			next = READ_ONCE(work->next);
> > 				work->func(work);
> > 				work = next;
> > 				cond_resched();
> >
> > Perhaps it makes sense before the patch from Sebastian even if that patch
> > removes this do/while loop ?
>
> Hmm, can work->next be modified concurrently here?

work->func(work) can, say, do kfree(work) or do another task_work_add(X, work).

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-05 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-24 15:15 [PATCH v4 0/6] perf: Make SIGTRAP and __perf_pending_irq() work on RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-24 15:15 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] perf: Move irq_work_queue() where the event is prepared Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-24 15:15 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] perf: Enqueue SIGTRAP always via task_work Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-07-01 12:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-01 13:27     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-07-02  9:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-28  8:30   ` Lai, Yi
2024-10-28 12:21     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 17:21       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-30 14:07         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-30 15:46           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-07 14:46             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-08 13:11               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-08 19:08                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-11-08 22:26                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-11 12:08                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-04  3:02                       ` Lai, Yi
2024-12-04 13:48                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-05  0:19                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-12-05  9:20                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-05 10:05                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-12-05 10:28                               ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-12-13 22:52                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-12-16 19:19                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-24 15:15 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] perf: Shrink the size of the recursion counter Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-07-01 12:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-01 12:56     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-07-01 13:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 15:15 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] perf: Move swevent_htable::recursion into task_struct Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-24 15:15 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] perf: Don't disable preemption in perf_pending_task() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-24 15:15 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] perf: Split __perf_pending_irq() out of perf_pending_irq() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-25 13:42 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] perf: Make SIGTRAP and __perf_pending_irq() work on RT Marco Elver

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