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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nicolas@fjasle.eu>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Adam Bratschi-Kaye" <ark.email@gmail.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:23:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2024121309-lethargic-ended-5f99@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87frmrepo5.fsf@kernel.org>

On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 01:24:42PM +0100, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:30:45PM +0100, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> >> This series extends the `module!` macro with support module parameters.
> >
> > Eeek, why?
> >
> > Module parameters are from the 1990's, back when we had no idea what we
> > were doing and thought that a simple "one variable for a driver that
> > controls multiple devices" was somehow a valid solution :)
> >
> > Please only really add module parameters if you can prove that you
> > actually need a module parameter.
> 
> I really need module parameters to make rust null block feature
> compatible with C null block.

Is that a requirement?  That wasn't documented here :(

You should have put the user of these apis in the series as you have
that code already in the tree, right?

> Let's not block interfacing parts of the kernel because we decided that
> the way we (well not me, I was not around) did things in the 80's was
> less than stellar. I mean, we would get nowhere.

On the contrary, if we don't learn from our past mistakes, we will
constantly keep making them and prevent others from "doing the right
thing" by default.

I would strongly prefer that any driver not have any module parameters
at all, as drivers don't work properly that way (again, they need to
handle multiple devices, which does not work for a module parameter.)

That's why we created sysfs, configfs, and lots of other things, to
learn from our past mistakes.

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-13 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2024-12-13 11:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] rust: str: implement `PartialEq` for `BStr` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:49     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] rust: str: implement `strip_prefix` " Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] rust: str: add radix prefixed integer parsing functions Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] rust: add parameter support to the `module!` macro Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:46     ` Greg KH
2024-12-13 12:42       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:54     ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-13 13:17       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 17:14         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-08 12:45           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-08 13:17             ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-08 13:43             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-08 14:20               ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:43   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Greg KH
2024-12-13 12:24     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:48       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-13 12:57         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-17 14:09           ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-13 14:23       ` Greg KH [this message]
2024-12-13 15:38         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 16:05           ` Greg KH
2024-12-16  9:51             ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 12:14               ` Greg KH
2024-12-16 12:23                 ` Greg KH
2024-12-16 13:02                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 13:02                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 14:43                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-12-16 15:03                     ` Greg KH
2024-12-16 15:08                       ` Jens Axboe
2024-12-16 15:39                         ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-16 15:48                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-18  2:16                             ` Josh Triplett
2024-12-13 12:28   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 19:41     ` Luis Chamberlain

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