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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nicolas@fjasle.eu>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Adam Bratschi-Kaye" <ark.email@gmail.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:05:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2024121344-excusably-resurrect-d01a@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ttb7d24p.fsf@kernel.org>

On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 04:38:30PM +0100, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 01:24:42PM +0100, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> >> "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
> >> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:30:45PM +0100, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> I'm not getting a clear reading on the following, perhaps you can
> clarify:
> 
>  - Is the community aligned on dropping module parameters for all new
>    drivers?
>    - If so, was this decided upon at some point or is this a fluid
>      decision that is just manifesting now?

It's something that I've been saying in review comments of drivers for
many many years now.  Again, it was one of the main reasons we created
configfs and sysfs all those decades ago, because module parameters just
do not work properly for drivers in almost all cases.

>  - Does this ban of module parameters also cover cases where backwards
>    compatibility is desirable?

No, we don't break existing kernel features, but if you are writing a
new driver, don't add them and then there's no compatibility issue.

We don't normally allow "rewrites" of drivers, but if we do, yes, you
would have to implement the old features if needed.

As you just seem to want to write an "example" block driver, no need to
add the module option there, just do it right this time in how to
properly configure things.

>  - Can we merge this so I can move forward at my current projected
>    course, or should I plan on dealing with not having this available?

We generally do not want to merge apis without any real users, as it's
hard to justify them, right?  Also, we don't even know if they work
properly or not.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-13 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2024-12-13 11:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] rust: str: implement `PartialEq` for `BStr` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:49     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] rust: str: implement `strip_prefix` " Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] rust: str: add radix prefixed integer parsing functions Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] rust: add parameter support to the `module!` macro Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:46     ` Greg KH
2024-12-13 12:42       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:54     ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-13 13:17       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 17:14         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-08 12:45           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-08 13:17             ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-08 13:43             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-08 14:20               ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:43   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Greg KH
2024-12-13 12:24     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:48       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-13 12:57         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-17 14:09           ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-13 14:23       ` Greg KH
2024-12-13 15:38         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 16:05           ` Greg KH [this message]
2024-12-16  9:51             ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 12:14               ` Greg KH
2024-12-16 12:23                 ` Greg KH
2024-12-16 13:02                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 13:02                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 14:43                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-12-16 15:03                     ` Greg KH
2024-12-16 15:08                       ` Jens Axboe
2024-12-16 15:39                         ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-16 15:48                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-18  2:16                             ` Josh Triplett
2024-12-13 12:28   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 19:41     ` Luis Chamberlain

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