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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
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	Zimuzo Ezeozue <zezeozue@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Metin Kaya <Metin.Kaya@arm.com>,
	Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	kernel-team@android.com, Connor O'Brien <connoro@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v14 2/7] locking/mutex: Rework task_struct::blocked_on
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 09:39:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241217083946.GF35539@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANDhNCpTfZFOkUkB4f4iQwXA3wnsDuUA_1ZLuseGYunnpgO9Rw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 09:01:24PM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 8:54 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 07:39:57PM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 3:22 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 11:51:56AM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
> > > So yes, the description can use improvement here. I at one time had
> > > 3-4 separate very fine grained patches (see the top 4 patches here:
> > > https://github.com/johnstultz-work/linux-dev/commits/proxy-exec-v7-6.7-rc6-fine-grained/?after=c4cad6e353c00254a2dfbb227ef81d8c3827427d+35)
> > > that I rolled into one when sending out(mostly to avoid overwhelming
> > > folks), but the squished commit description isn't as clear.
> > > So if it's helpful I can split this back out?
> > >
> > > I'll also add some better comments as well.
> >
> > Not sure yet about splitting back out -- let me try and figure out what
> > all is actually done / needed.
> >
> > So blocked_lock started out as another lock around ttwu(), in order to
> > serialize the task wakeup vs reading a remote ->blocked_on relation.
> 
> I think of it primarily to serialize the task->blocked* state (there
> gets to be quite a bit by the end of the proxy series).
> 
> > Since we do this with rq->lock held, it can't be ->pi_lock, and hence
> > ->blocked_lock was born.
> 
> Yeah, we needed to use something other than the task->pi_lock to
> serialize it as it has to nest under the mutex->wait_lock.

No, the critical bit is nesting under rq->lock -- we need to be able to
walk the blocked relation in the middle of schedule(). You can equally
wrap blocked_lock outside of wait_lock, that doesn't really matter much.

> > Later patches appear to have moved it into mutex, mirroring the
> > ->wait_lock -- this is probably better.
> >
> > /me goes chase that state thing for a bit..
> 
> ? I'm not sure I followed this.  The blocked_lock continues to
> serialize the task->blocked* state through the patch series.

Well, there was only ->blocked_on, and on UP you don't need
serialization beyond disabling preemption.

The tricky bit is SMP, then you need something to stabilize the blocked
relation.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-17  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-25 19:51 [RFC][PATCH v14 0/7] Single CPU Proxy Execution (v14) John Stultz
2024-11-25 19:51 ` [RFC][PATCH v14 1/7] sched: Add CONFIG_SCHED_PROXY_EXEC & boot argument to enable/disable John Stultz
2024-11-25 19:51 ` [RFC][PATCH v14 2/7] locking/mutex: Rework task_struct::blocked_on John Stultz
2024-12-13 23:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-14  3:39     ` John Stultz
2024-12-16 16:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-16 17:07         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-17  5:01         ` John Stultz
2024-12-17  8:39           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-12-17  8:46           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-17  9:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-25 19:51 ` [RFC][PATCH v14 3/7] sched: Fix runtime accounting w/ split exec & sched contexts John Stultz
2024-12-13 23:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-14  0:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-17  6:09       ` John Stultz
2024-12-17  8:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-25 19:51 ` [RFC][PATCH v14 4/7] sched: Fix psi_dequeue for Proxy Execution John Stultz
2024-11-25 19:51 ` [RFC][PATCH v14 5/7] sched: Add an initial sketch of the find_proxy_task() function John Stultz
2024-12-14  0:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-17  5:42     ` John Stultz
2024-12-17  8:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-25 19:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v14 6/7] sched: Fix proxy/current (push,pull)ability John Stultz
2024-11-25 19:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v14 7/7] sched: Start blocked_on chain processing in find_proxy_task() John Stultz

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