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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Xu Yilun" <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Leon Romanovsky" <leonro@nvidia.com>,
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	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lukas@wunner.de, yan.y.zhao@intel.com, leon@kernel.org,
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	tao1.su@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 01/12] dma-buf: Introduce dma_buf_get_pfn_unlocked() kAPI
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 06:33:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250116053348.GA24046@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250115133419.GN5556@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 09:34:19AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > Or do you mean some that don't have pages associated with them, and
> > thus have pfn_valid fail on them?  They still have a PFN, just not
> > one that is valid to use in most of the Linux MM.
> 
> He is talking about private interconnect hidden inside clusters of
> devices.
> 
> Ie the system may have many GPUs and those GPUs have their own private
> interconnect between them. It is not PCI, and packets don't transit
> through the CPU SOC at all, so the IOMMU is not involved.
> 
> DMA can happen on that private interconnect, but from a Linux
> perspective it is not DMA API DMA, and the addresses used to describe
> it are not part of the CPU address space. The initiating device will
> have a way to choose which path the DMA goes through when setting up
> the DMA.

So how is this in any way relevant to dma_buf which operates on
a dma_addr_t right now and thus by definition can't be used for
these?


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-16  5:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-07 14:27 [RFC PATCH 00/12] Private MMIO support for private assigned dev Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] dma-buf: Introduce dma_buf_get_pfn_unlocked() kAPI Xu Yilun
2025-01-08  8:01   ` Christian König
2025-01-08 13:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 13:44       ` Christian König
2025-01-08 14:58         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 15:25           ` Christian König
2025-01-08 16:22             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 17:56               ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-10 19:24                 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-10 20:16                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 18:44               ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-08 19:22                 ` Xu Yilun
     [not found]                   ` <58e97916-e6fd-41ef-84b4-bbf53ed0e8e4@amd.com>
2025-01-08 23:06                     ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-10 19:34                       ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-10 20:38                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-12 22:10                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-14 14:44                           ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-14 17:31                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15  8:55                               ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-15  9:32                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-15 13:34                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-16  5:33                                     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-06-19 23:39                                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-16 13:28                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                 ` <420bd2ea-d87c-4f01-883e-a7a5cf1635fe@amd.com>
2025-01-17 14:42                                   ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-20 12:14                                     ` Christian König
2025-01-20 17:59                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-20 18:50                                         ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-20 19:48                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-21 16:11                                             ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-21 17:36                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 11:04                                                 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-22 13:28                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 13:29                                                   ` Christian König
2025-01-22 14:37                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 14:59                                                       ` Christian König
2025-01-23 13:59                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                           ` <9a36fba5-2dee-46fd-9f51-47c5f0ffc1d4@amd.com>
2025-01-23 14:35                                                             ` Christian König
2025-01-23 15:02                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                 ` <89f46c7f-a585-44e2-963d-bf00bf09b493@amd.com>
2025-01-23 16:08                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-09  8:09                     ` Christian König
2025-01-10 20:54                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15  9:38                         ` Christian König
2025-01-15 13:38                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <f6c2524f-5ef5-4c2c-a464-a7b195e0bf6c@amd.com>
2025-01-15 13:46                               ` Christian König
2025-01-15 14:14                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                   ` <c86cfee1-063a-4972-a343-ea0eff2141c9@amd.com>
2025-01-15 14:30                                     ` Christian König
2025-01-15 15:10                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <6f7a14aa-f607-45f9-9e15-759e26079dec@amd.com>
2025-01-15 17:09                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <5f588dac-d3e2-445d-9389-067b875412dc@amd.com>
2024-06-20 22:02                                               ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-20 13:44                                                 ` Christian König
2025-01-22  4:16                                                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-16 16:07                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-17 14:37                                                 ` Simona Vetter
     [not found]               ` <0e7f92bd-7da3-4328-9081-0957b3d155ca@amd.com>
2025-01-09  9:28                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] vfio: Export vfio device get and put registration helpers Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] vfio/pci: Share the core device pointer while invoking feature functions Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] vfio/pci: Allow MMIO regions to be exported through dma-buf Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] vfio/pci: Support get_pfn() callback for dma-buf Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] KVM: Support vfio_dmabuf backed MMIO region Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle page fault for vfio_dmabuf backed MMIO Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] vfio/pci: Create host unaccessible dma-buf for private device Xu Yilun
2025-01-08 13:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 16:57     ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-09 14:40       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-09 16:40         ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-10 13:31           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-11  3:48             ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-13 16:49               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-17 23:28                 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-14 13:35                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15 12:57                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-15 13:01                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-17  1:57                         ` Baolu Lu
2025-01-17 13:25                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-23 19:59                             ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-20 13:25                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-24 21:12                                 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-21 17:43                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22  4:32                                     ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-22 12:55                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-23  7:41                                         ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-23 13:08                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-20  4:41                             ` Baolu Lu
2025-01-20  9:45                             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-20 13:28                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-12  1:37                                 ` Dan Williams
2025-03-17 16:38                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] vfio/pci: Export vfio dma-buf specific info for importers Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] KVM: vfio_dmabuf: Fetch VFIO specific dma-buf data for sanity check Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Export kvm_is_mmio_pfn() Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] KVM: TDX: Implement TDX specific private MMIO map/unmap for SEPT Xu Yilun
2025-04-29  6:48 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] Private MMIO support for private assigned dev Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-29  7:50   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-09  3:04     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-09 11:12       ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-09 16:28         ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-09 18:43           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-10  3:47             ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-12  9:30               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-12 14:06                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-13 10:03                   ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-14  9:47                     ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-14 20:05                       ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-15 18:02                         ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-15 19:21                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  6:19                             ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-16 12:49                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-17  2:33                                 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-20 10:57                           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-24  3:33                             ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-15 10:29                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-15 16:44                       ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-15 16:53                         ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-21 10:41                           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-14  7:02                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-14 16:33                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 16:04                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-15 17:56                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  6:03                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-22  3:45                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-24  3:13                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-26  7:18                             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-29 14:41                               ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-29 16:29                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-30 16:07                                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-30  2:29                                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-30 16:23                                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-10  4:20                                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-10  5:19                                       ` Baolu Lu
2025-06-10  6:53                                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-14  3:20                 ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-10  4:37                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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