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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, andrew@lunn.ch, hkallweit1@gmail.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/8] sched/core: Add __might_sleep_precision()
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 13:16:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250201121613.GC8256@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z5rSjsdwG2aonZrB@boqun-archlinux>

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 05:14:54PM -0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 08:56:44AM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:37:38 +0100
> > Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 07:18:46PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > >> Add __might_sleep_precision(), Rust friendly version of
> > >> __might_sleep(), which takes a pointer to a string with the length
> > >> instead of a null-terminated string.
> > >> 
> > >> Rust's core::panic::Location::file(), which gives the file name of a
> > >> caller, doesn't provide a null-terminated
> > >> string. __might_sleep_precision() uses a precision specifier in the
> > >> printk format, which specifies the length of a string; a string
> > >> doesn't need to be a null-terminated.
> > >> 
> > >> Modify __might_sleep() to call __might_sleep_precision() but the
> > >> impact should be negligible. strlen() isn't called in a normal case;
> > >> it's called only when printing the error (sleeping function called
> > >> from invalid context).
> > >> 
> > >> Note that Location::file() providing a null-terminated string for
> > >> better C interoperability is under discussion [1].
> > > 
> > > Urgh :/
> > 
> > Yeah... so not acceptable?

Just frustrated we 'need' more ugly to deal with Rust being stupid.

> I would like to see some concrete and technical reasons for why it's not
> acceptable ;-) I'm not sure whether Peter was against this patch or just
> not happy about Location::file() providing a null-terminated string is a
> WIP.

The latter.

I just hate on Rust for being designed by a bunch of C haters, not
wanting to acknowledge the whole frigging world runs on C and they
*have* to deal with interoperability.

That got us a whole pile of ugly including this.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-01 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-25 10:18 [PATCH v9 0/8] rust: Add IO polling FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-25 10:18 ` [PATCH v9 1/8] sched/core: Add __might_sleep_precision() FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-27  9:41   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-28 11:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-29 23:56     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-30  1:14       ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-01 12:16         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-01-25 10:18 ` [PATCH v9 2/8] rust: time: Add PartialEq/Eq/PartialOrd/Ord trait to Ktime FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-28 10:18   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-01-25 10:18 ` [PATCH v9 3/8] rust: time: Introduce Delta type FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-27  3:24   ` Gary Guo
2025-01-28 10:25   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-01-25 10:18 ` [PATCH v9 4/8] rust: time: Introduce Instant type FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-27  3:30   ` Gary Guo
2025-01-28 10:30   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-01-25 10:18 ` [PATCH v9 5/8] rust: time: Add wrapper for fsleep() function FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-27  3:41   ` Gary Guo
2025-01-27  8:55   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-28 10:37   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-01-29  5:04     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-25 10:18 ` [PATCH v9 6/8] MAINTAINERS: rust: Add TIMEKEEPING and TIMER abstractions FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-25 10:18 ` [PATCH v9 7/8] rust: Add read_poll_timeout functions FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-27  3:46   ` Gary Guo
2025-01-27  6:31     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-28  0:49       ` Gary Guo
2025-01-28  6:29         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-28 10:49           ` Fiona Behrens
2025-01-29  4:53             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-29  6:31           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-28 10:52   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-01-29  4:40     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-01-25 10:18 ` [PATCH v9 8/8] net: phy: qt2025: Wait until PHY becomes ready FUJITA Tomonori

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