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From: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
To: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
Cc: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 paul.walmsley@sifive.com, palmer@dabbelt.com,
	charlie@rivosinc.com, jesse@rivosinc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] riscv: Unaligned access speed probing fixes and skipping
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 12:01:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250210-c79541eaea0d2d922f019384@orel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK9=C2X5Hu_LQHmXUea7Xhq5cHaJqtcncgwUeb2+2uMvbTiW3w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 03:28:13PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 2:56 PM Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 01:29:42PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 9:49 PM Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The first six patches of this series are fixes and cleanups of the
> > > > unaligned access speed probing code. The next two patches introduce
> > > > support to skip probing by matching vendor/arch/imp ids and checking a
> > > > table for the access speed type. The last patch applies the new skip
> > > > support to Ventana harts.
> > >
> > > Alternatively, we can also skip probing misaligned access when Zicclsm
> > > extension is present in the ISA string. The Zicclsm extension is defined
> > > as part of the ratified RVA23 profile.
> >
> > The definition of Zicclsm doesn't explicitly state that misaligned word
> > accesses will be faster than byte accesses to the same addresses. There's
> > also this spec issue[1] which appears to state that Zicclsm cannot be used
> > to infer fast misaligned accesses.
> >
> > But, like Charlie suggests, maybe we should advocate the creation of an
> > extension (or "named feature") which allows specifically advertising that
> > misaligned accesses are fast.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/riscv/riscv-isa-manual/issues/1611
> 
> I am not sure when such an extension would show up so for now
> skipping unaligned tests based on implementation ID seems
> reasonable.
> 
> Also, it seems this series is totally skipping the existing boot-time
> print for fast unaligned access. Please try to keep the boot-time
> print in some form.

Sure. We have hwprobe, but now that people are likely used to seeing it
in dmesg, then we should probably keep something there.

Thanks,
drew

      reply	other threads:[~2025-02-10 11:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-07 16:19 [PATCH 0/9] riscv: Unaligned access speed probing fixes and skipping Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 1/9] riscv: Annotate unaligned access init functions Andrew Jones
2025-02-13 12:59   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 2/9] riscv: Fix riscv_online_cpu_vec Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:47   ` Clément Léger
2025-02-07 17:08     ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 17:43       ` Clément Léger
2025-02-07 18:08         ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-13 13:02   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 3/9] riscv: Fix check_unaligned_access_all_cpus Andrew Jones
2025-02-13 13:12   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 4/9] riscv: Change check_unaligned_access_speed_all_cpus to void Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:42   ` Clément Léger
2025-02-13 13:15   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 5/9] riscv: Fix set up of cpu hotplug callbacks Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:44   ` Clément Léger
2025-02-13 13:25   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-13 13:33   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 6/9] riscv: Fix set up of vector cpu hotplug callback Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 17:36   ` Clément Léger
2025-02-07 18:15     ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-13 13:28   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 7/9] riscv: Prepare for unaligned access type table lookups Andrew Jones
2025-02-08  1:22   ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-10  9:43     ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-10 17:10       ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-10 10:16     ` Anup Patel
2025-02-10 11:07       ` Clément Léger
2025-02-10 14:06         ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-10 14:20           ` Clément Léger
2025-02-10 17:20             ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-10 20:42               ` Clément Léger
2025-02-10 20:53                 ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-10 20:57                   ` Clément Léger
2025-02-10 21:13                     ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-11  4:26                     ` Anup Patel
2025-02-11  8:37                       ` Clément Léger
2025-02-11 18:09                       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2025-02-10 17:19       ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-10 20:37         ` Clément Léger
2025-02-11  9:04           ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 8/9] riscv: Implement check_unaligned_access_table Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 9/9] riscv: Add Ventana unaligned access table entries Andrew Jones
2025-02-08  7:59 ` [PATCH 0/9] riscv: Unaligned access speed probing fixes and skipping Anup Patel
2025-02-10  9:26   ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-10  9:58     ` Anup Patel
2025-02-10 11:01       ` Andrew Jones [this message]

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