From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED14826B974 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1739892273; cv=none; b=Rvgpg4c61L+FG9TDyLHd+z0yqGvDnAX6r1vaz9Qtwy7mD6sXYkBF+wZMCJ4QOi1PrqRCQLhsMmzFxFHRM1AvumcekK3TH231w4dlYIjxTpXBv72Qg+Ut3e6wEB2C3PeeSwcUyCqxDrstL1JJgfjpmf/I7fRmCj3yPBxdk5NUiu4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1739892273; c=relaxed/simple; bh=4o3xQjcTRMSdLkJZQtX4veKwgNtgmqGbJzelh9aDvdM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References: Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=JRSe124y8y4S6RbLkUR3xtvTR4r/wBPuPhz745blPn2SKZxnGzsRpGLCIg3yOp9WOgv4F8pl0EuvSur1kVBBZFNSuqRbADsuMhM7PoktHQpANaCu/fv//kiKkTr2CBHFSaaZlaVGLsLi0zx3LDnD1BwJrJJOdKjKPp9SRiC6pKI= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=NZmul7de; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="NZmul7de" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2D44FC4CEE2; Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:24:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1739892272; bh=4o3xQjcTRMSdLkJZQtX4veKwgNtgmqGbJzelh9aDvdM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=NZmul7deNORGQ242ExBuaihdpiMsHeI0A9TyyhHs7Nb05CUzmLtNrhcirO7jDg9A4 703YuyShdLoQ7kNIXt7jslkZmmYIleYRXG9LX65zCkJ0807fw1chTXfKnOlSoaOhHO rpdLucQg2WYKeva+E/iGLYxqGr/AU6a46tp4KzpHar5qq8d4/rxRAMPCAX6mC7q0xs 7Kur7Uvi26vTvaq7pEec/s2h1WLC6lKaMGpsDDG3KW/cGa6dXp4rmeaWlPDv2vwzrW bWPv7l/7y97xXd1tfTJ7PB9XbmLrOcPR1bfD1j1C8J8mg48CJ3bv2TKnJupj0UyNGl bgfz8zVD7x5kg== Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 00:24:28 +0900 From: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) To: Danilo Krummrich Cc: Steven Rostedt , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Lyude Paul , Danilo Krummrich , dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, Dave Airlie , Simona Vetter , Karol Herbst Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] MAINTAINERS: Remove myself Message-Id: <20250219002428.1c493839dd402181bf888065@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20250215073753.1217002-1-kherbst@redhat.com> <20250215073753.1217002-2-kherbst@redhat.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.8.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 13:27:25 +0100 Danilo Krummrich wrote: > On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 08:37:53AM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote: > > I was pondering with myself for a while if I should just make it official > > that I'm not really involved in the kernel community anymore, neither as a > > reviewer, nor as a maintainer. > > > > Most of the time I simply excused myself with "if something urgent comes > > up, I can chime in and help out". Lyude and Danilo are doing a wonderful > > job and I've put all my trust into them. > > > > However, there is one thing I can't stand and it's hurting me the most. > > I'm convinced, no, my core believe is, that inclusivity and respect, > > working with others as equals, no power plays involved, is how we should > > work together within the Free and Open Source community. > > > > I can understand maintainers needing to learn, being concerned on > > technical points. Everybody deserves the time to understand and learn. It > > is my true belief that most people are capable of change eventually. I > > truly believe this community can change from within, however this doesn't > > mean it's going to be a smooth process. > > > > The moment I made up my mind about this was reading the following words > > written by a maintainer within the kernel community: > > > > "we are the thin blue line" > > > > This isn't okay. This isn't creating an inclusive environment. This isn't > > okay with the current political situation especially in the US. A > > maintainer speaking those words can't be kept. No matter how important > > or critical or relevant they are. They need to be removed until they > > learn. Learn what those words mean for a lot of marginalized people. Learn > > about what horrors it evokes in their minds. > > > > I can't in good faith remain to be part of a project and its community > > where those words are tolerated. Those words are not technical, they are > > a political statement. Even if unintentionally, such words carry power, > > they carry meanings one needs to be aware of. They do cause an immense > > amount of harm. > > > > I wish the best of luck for everybody to continue to try to work from > > within. You got my full support and I won't hold it against anybody trying > > to improve the community, it's a thankless job, it's a lot of work. People > > will continue to burn out. > > > > I got burned out enough by myself caring about the bits I maintained, but > > eventually I had to realize my limits. The obligation I felt was eating me > > from inside. It stopped being fun at some point and I reached a point > > where I simply couldn't continue the work I was so motivated doing as I've > > did in the early days. > > > > Please respect my wishes and put this statement as is into the tree. > > Leaving anything out destroys its entire meaning. > > > > Respectfully > > > > Karol > > > > Signed-off-by: Karol Herbst > > @Steven, @Masami: Can I get an ACK for taking this through the drm-misc tree? > > (Not cutting any context, since you have not been copied on this one.) OK, Acked-by: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) Thank you, > > - Danilo > > > --- > > MAINTAINERS | 2 -- > > 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-) > > > > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS > > index 25c86f47353de..ca31e57fa203c 100644 > > --- a/MAINTAINERS > > +++ b/MAINTAINERS > > @@ -7431,7 +7431,6 @@ F: Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/panel/novatek,nt36672a.yaml > > F: drivers/gpu/drm/panel/panel-novatek-nt36672a.c > > > > DRM DRIVER FOR NVIDIA GEFORCE/QUADRO GPUS > > -M: Karol Herbst > > M: Lyude Paul > > M: Danilo Krummrich > > L: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > > @@ -24062,7 +24061,6 @@ F: tools/testing/selftests/ftrace/ > > TRACING MMIO ACCESSES (MMIOTRACE) > > M: Steven Rostedt > > M: Masami Hiramatsu > > -R: Karol Herbst > > R: Pekka Paalanen > > L: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > L: nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org > > -- > > 2.48.1 > > -- Masami Hiramatsu (Google)