From: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
Cc: Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>,
mhiramat@kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Joel Granados <joel.granados@kernel.org>,
Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@oracle.com>,
Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
Yongliang Gao <leonylgao@tencent.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] hung_task: Dump the blocking task stacktrace
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 23:18:57 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250220231857.6e377e5f208b60a7ba303cea@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8ca57548-4b18-401d-bfda-95bc12216adf@redhat.com>
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:20:39 -0500
Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 2/19/25 10:02 AM, Lance Yang wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:33 PM Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> CC linux-mm
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:00 PM Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
> >> <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> The hung_task detector is very useful for detecting the lockup.
> >>> However, since it only dumps the blocked (uninterruptible sleep)
> >>> processes, it is not enough to identify the root cause of that
> >>> lockup.
> >>>
> >>> For example, if a process holds a mutex and sleep an event in
> >>> interruptible state long time, the other processes will wait on
> >>> the mutex in uninterruptible state. In this case, the waiter
> >>> processes are dumped, but the blocker process is not shown
> >>> because it is sleep in interruptible state.
> > Cool! I just ran into something similar today, but with rwsem. In that
> > case, the blocked process was locked up, and we could not identify
> > the root cause either ;(
>
> Once this patch series is settled down, we can extend rwsem to provide
> similar feature.
While discussing about rwsem with Sergey, he pointed that we can not
identify a single blocker on rwsem, because several readers can block
several writers. In this case, we need to dump all of them but we
don't have such info.
So anyway, I would like to start from mutex, which is the simplest one.
For the other locks, we will discuss later. (or start with limited
support, like showing only rwsem::owner)
Thanks,
--
Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-20 14:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-19 13:00 [PATCH 0/2] hung_task: Dump the blocking task stacktrace Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-02-19 13:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] hung_task: Show the blocker task if the task is hung on mutex Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-02-19 16:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 20:18 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-19 20:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 22:44 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-19 22:56 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-19 23:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20 1:52 ` Lance Yang
2025-02-20 2:07 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-20 2:21 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 2:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20 1:36 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 1:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20 2:15 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 2:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20 3:29 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 2:59 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-20 3:37 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 9:29 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-20 13:28 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 2:40 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-20 3:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20 13:13 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 16:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 23:09 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-19 23:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20 2:08 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-20 2:25 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 1:40 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 2:45 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-20 3:46 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-20 3:49 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 4:19 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-20 9:25 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-19 13:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] samples: Add hung_task detector mutex blocking sample Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-02-19 13:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] hung_task: Dump the blocking task stacktrace Lance Yang
2025-02-19 15:02 ` Lance Yang
2025-02-19 20:20 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 1:27 ` Lance Yang
2025-02-20 14:18 ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2025-02-20 14:22 ` Waiman Long
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