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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: cuiguoqi <cuiguoqi@kylinos.cn>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, anna-maria@linutronix.de,
	clrkwllms@kernel.org, frederic@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	rostedt@goodmis.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hrtimer: Fix the incorrect initialization of timer->is_hard
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 09:49:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250324084944.z1J0Kf8c@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250322082403.3126947-1-cuiguoqi@kylinos.cn>

On 2025-03-22 16:24:03 [+0800], cuiguoqi wrote:
> Hi tglx,
>  
> First of all, I'd like to thank you for your reply and for pointing out the email issue. 
> 
> As you've accurately noted, when PREEMPT_RT is disabled, it introduces a certain
> degree of ambiguity for kernel developers. So far, no malfunctions have been
> observed as a direct consequence of this.
>  
> This issue came to light during kernel development when using the is_hard flag, 
> where the expected logic was not achieved.Naturally, we opted for the more reliable 
> is_soft flag to address the situation.
>  
> Consequently, when PREEMPT_RT is disabled, there is a potential risk if developers
> choose to use the is_hard flag. I firmly believe this risk should not be overlooked.

You shouldn't try to set the is_hard flag without knowing its
implications. HRTIMER_MODE_HARD is what you should pay attention to.
Everything else is implementation specific.

> I concur with your analysis that one of these flags is redundant. In fact,
> it might be possible to consolidate them based on the overall requirements. 

A timer that is missing HRTIMER_MODE_HARD is not a automatically a
HRTIMER_MODE_SOFT and also a timer missing HRTIMER_MODE_SOFT is not
automatically HRTIMER_MODE_HARD. These depends on RT vs non-RT mode.
Wouldn't your suggestion influence the warning in
hrtimer_start_range_ns()?

> Thanks.
>  
> 
> Cui Guoqi

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-24  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-21  2:03 [PATCH] hrtimer: Fix the incorrect initialization of timer->is_hard cuiguoqi
2025-03-21 16:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-03-22  8:24   ` cuiguoqi
2025-03-24  8:49     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2025-03-24 13:15       ` cuiguoqi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-03-21  1:51 cuiguoqi

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