From: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
To: Xi Wang <xii@google.com>
Cc: Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Chuyi Zhou <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: Handle throttle path for task based throttle
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 16:58:22 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250324085822.GA732629@bytedance> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOBoifh2Ya279_jjFBrSAHuczqz_FM4NGUne2Tk0sBV=gD4D+w@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 11:40:11AM -0700, Xi Wang wrote:
...
> I am a bit unsure about the overhead experiment results. Maybe we can add some
> counters to check how many cgroups per cpu are actually touched and how many
> threads are actually dequeued / enqueued for throttling / unthrottling?
Sure thing.
> Looks like busy loop workloads were used for the experiment. With throttling
> deferred to exit_to_user_mode, it would only be triggered by ticks. A large
> runtime debt can accumulate before the on cpu threads are actually dequeued.
> (Also noted in https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240711130004.2157737-11-vschneid@redhat.com/)
>
> distribute_cfs_runtime would finish early if the quotas are used up by the first
> few cpus, which would also result in throttling/unthrottling for only a few
> runqueues per period. An intermittent workload like hackbench may give us more
> information.
I've added some trace prints and noticed it already invovled almost all
cpu rqs on that 2sockets/384cpus test system, so I suppose it's OK to
continue use that setup as described before:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CANCG0GdOwS7WO0k5Fb+hMd8R-4J_exPTt2aS3-0fAMUC5pVD8g@mail.gmail.com/
Below is one print sample:
<idle>-0 [214] d.h1. 1879.281972: distribute_cfs_runtime: cpu214: begins <idle>-0 [214] dNh2. 1879.283564: distribute_cfs_runtime: cpu214: finishes. unthrottled rqs=383, unthro
ttled_cfs_rq=1101, unthrottled_task=69
With async unthrottle, it's not possible to account exactly how many
cfs_rqs are unthrottled and how many tasks are enqueued back, just
how many rqs are involved and how many cfs_rqs/tasks the local cpu has
unthrottled. So this sample means in distribute_cfs_runtime(), 383 rqs
are involved and the local cpu has unthrottled 1101 cfs_rqs and a total
of 69 tasks are enqueued back.
The corresponding bpftrace(duration of distribute_cfs_runtime(), in
nano-seconds) is:
@durations:
[4K, 8K) 9 | |
[8K, 16K) 227 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
[16K, 32K) 120 |@@@@@@@ |
[32K, 64K) 70 |@@@@ |
[64K, 128K) 0 | |
[128K, 256K) 0 | |
[256K, 512K) 0 | |
[512K, 1M) 158 |@@@@@@@@@ |
[1M, 2M) 832 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@|
[2M, 4M) 177 |@@@@@@@@@@@ |
Thanks,
Aaron
> See slide 10 of my presentation for more info:
> https://lpc.events/event/18/contributions/1883/attachments/1420/3040/Priority%20Inheritance%20for%20CFS%20Bandwidth%20Control.pdf
>
> Indeed we are seeing more cfsb scalability problems with larger servers. Both
> the irq off time from the cgroup walk and the overheads from per task actions
> can be problematic.
>
> -Xi
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Subject: [DEBUG PATCH] sched/fair: add profile for distribute_cfs_runtime()
---
kernel/sched/fair.c | 10 ++++++++++
kernel/sched/sched.h | 2 ++
2 files changed, 12 insertions(+)
diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
index d646451d617c1..a4e3780c076e3 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -5922,10 +5922,12 @@ static int tg_unthrottle_up(struct task_group *tg, void *data)
cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self_time += delta;
}
+ rq->unthrottled_cfs_rq++;
/* Re-enqueue the tasks that have been throttled at this level. */
list_for_each_entry_safe(p, tmp, &cfs_rq->throttled_limbo_list, throttle_node) {
list_del_init(&p->throttle_node);
enqueue_task_fair(rq_of(cfs_rq), p, ENQUEUE_WAKEUP);
+ rq->unthrottled_task++;
}
/* Add cfs_rq with load or one or more already running entities to the list */
@@ -6192,6 +6194,9 @@ static bool distribute_cfs_runtime(struct cfs_bandwidth *cfs_b)
struct rq_flags rf;
struct rq *rq;
LIST_HEAD(local_unthrottle);
+ unsigned int unthrottled_rqs = 0;
+
+ trace_printk("cpu%d: begins\n", this_cpu);
rcu_read_lock();
list_for_each_entry_rcu(cfs_rq, &cfs_b->throttled_cfs_rq,
@@ -6228,6 +6233,7 @@ static bool distribute_cfs_runtime(struct cfs_bandwidth *cfs_b)
if (cfs_rq->runtime_remaining > 0) {
if (cpu_of(rq) != this_cpu) {
unthrottle_cfs_rq_async(cfs_rq);
+ unthrottled_rqs++;
} else {
/*
* We currently only expect to be unthrottling
@@ -6250,12 +6256,16 @@ static bool distribute_cfs_runtime(struct cfs_bandwidth *cfs_b)
struct rq *rq = rq_of(cfs_rq);
rq_lock_irqsave(rq, &rf);
+ rq->unthrottled_cfs_rq = rq->unthrottled_task = 0;
list_del_init(&cfs_rq->throttled_csd_list);
if (cfs_rq_throttled(cfs_rq))
unthrottle_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
+ trace_printk("cpu%d: finishes. unthrottled rqs=%u, unthrottled_cfs_rq=%d, unthrottled_task=%d\n",
+ raw_smp_processor_id(), unthrottled_rqs,
+ rq->unthrottled_cfs_rq, rq->unthrottled_task);
rq_unlock_irqrestore(rq, &rf);
}
SCHED_WARN_ON(!list_empty(&local_unthrottle));
diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
index 5c2af5a70163c..d004da2bc9071 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
+++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
@@ -1309,6 +1309,8 @@ struct rq {
#if defined(CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH) && defined(CONFIG_SMP)
call_single_data_t cfsb_csd;
struct list_head cfsb_csd_list;
+ unsigned int unthrottled_cfs_rq;
+ unsigned int unthrottled_task;
#endif
};
--
2.39.5
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-24 8:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-17 10:56 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Defer throttle when task exits to user Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] sched/fair: Add related data structure for task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-03-17 10:28 ` Valentin Schneider
2025-03-17 11:02 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: Handle throttle path " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 18:14 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 8:48 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 9:00 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 3:28 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 8:57 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 9:12 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 15:10 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 8:39 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-14 8:49 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 9:42 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 10:26 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:47 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 15:58 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-14 18:04 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:07 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-31 6:42 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-31 9:14 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-16 3:25 ` Josh Don
2025-03-17 2:54 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-20 6:59 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-20 8:39 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-20 18:40 ` Xi Wang
2025-03-24 8:58 ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2025-03-25 10:02 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-28 0:11 ` Xi Wang
2025-03-28 3:11 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-28 22:47 ` Benjamin Segall
2025-03-19 13:43 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-20 1:06 ` Josh Don
2025-03-20 6:53 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-13 7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] sched/fair: Handle unthrottle " Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 3:53 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 4:06 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 10:43 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 17:52 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-17 5:48 ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-02 9:25 ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-02 17:24 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-13 7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] sched/fair: Take care of migrated task " Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 4:03 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 9:49 ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] sched/fair: Take care of group/affinity/sched_class change for throttled task Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 4:51 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:40 ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] sched/fair: fix tasks_rcu with task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 4:14 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:37 ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-31 6:19 ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-01 3:17 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-01 8:48 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] sched/fair: Make sure cfs_rq has enough runtime_remaining on unthrottle path Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 4:18 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:39 ` [External] " Aaron Lu
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